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  The end of LP collecting????
I don't know about most of you but I am a joe six pack fince kind of guy and it bums me out that I keep seeing prices of equipment becaome more and more rediculous.That's why, say with amplification I ike a companies like Quicksilver,Rogue,VTL etc where just getting a set up that sound sbetter than mid-fi (and of course there budget companies for source compenet and spoeakers) where buying their products does not insult your inteliigence,But being a guy whao over tha past 6 years ghhas amazzes a pretty decent collection of LP's off EBAY the party seesms to be over.Yes we all wish we bought items before we di (Micorsoft in '83) or a split window Corvette jst to store away the wholeLP thing at least one ebay (which dtermines prices at shows and shops) the prices over the past 12 or pwerhaps 18 months has just gotten totally out of hand.Lp's that could get over the couple of years say $60 in mint conditon (like a Prestige Miles) not regularly go for $100..Bassically prices have doubled or trippled in one year.I know supply /demand but the supply has been static but I find it weird that everyone and his cousin finally disocvered Ebay even though it's been a forum for years.Blue Notesin particular have eneded up primarily Japan for quite some time but now the prices have just gobne nuts.Yes a goofd copy of a lowproduction item like Tina Brooks (made propular by the Mosaic set wheu\ic revived (or in fact started his fame-read his bio it was sad a talented guy who recorded as a dideman for a few Blue Note guys like McLean,Hubbard, or Burrell) but he himself recoded 4 LP's for Lyon and Wollf.But sales were so poor with the first titled "True Blue" that the other 3 staid in the can until Cuscuna brought them out on Mosaic.all of a suden copies would reguarlly go for $1500 when 10 yeas before they were bought for $5 in some cut out bin.But now a regular Mobley 1500 series LP will go for $2K.Barney Wilen excellent (Buy it for $8 on CD on Vogue) goes for $2500.And jusyt last week I sawa Sihab Shihab "With The Dabish Radio Orchestra ": go for $1800 pounds.You do the conversion.Iam satisfied with my $25 CD re-issue.But it's all taken the fun out of it for me siunce the priceing ( three or four players WILL get an LP they want no matter what.I guess if I was woth a few million I woulkd be that guy.I am only glad that since 1995 or so with 2 bit K2 [processing CD's are finally soundiong acceptable not terribel like they did for the fisrt fifteen years of "the ultimate media".And some red book CD's sound as good as SACD's.Still there is nothing more depressing than wanmting a say Prestige LP and only having the CD otion (foget the OJC LP's.Re-melt wax combine with re-melt something that has made LP's in general suck sinc the late 60's).Thank goodness for comapines like Clasic Records which have made soemre-0issue using original tapes,stampers etc and in some cases sound as f\good as the oru\iginal LP>And then there are comanies like Mapple shade which use no board for EQ,compression, etc-no board at all just mike to tape.Then there is the Japanese comany Venus whose "24 Bit Hyper Magnum Sound" is incredible either on CD or LP.Take the terrrfic Archie Shepp Ballad LP's like "True Blue","Tru Romance' etc (four in all I think)The Lp's have a great tactile sound and warmth that only Lp's cab provide but of course you lose some of the fdynamic range you get with CD's.And all of this from digital tape so nobody can tell me that LP'scan only sound good with analogue tape-these LP's are great.I stopped running the jazz section of CD stereo equipment store 4 years ago and just before i left did CVD's start to sound "right".SACD's,DVD Audio,BlueLight or other digital formats maybe the salvation for a guy like me.But there some of my jazz Lp's that maybe got pressed in a few hundred companies and I am doubtfull all of them will make it to market.So maybe I should just borrow my freinds trumpet and play taps for my beloved hobby.The groove factor of the cover srt and it's size,finding a clean flat edge preesing with adep grove with "Rudy Van Gelder" and the little "ear mark(swirl) that indicated a fuisrt press well it's a pleasure that isn't going to vcome down the pipe that ofetn and while I like the fact that mire and mre folks seem to be digging the "New Thing" that is now 40 or 50 years old great the recent spike of LP's is just plain depressing.
Chazzbo
Chazzbo  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

11-16-05
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11-17-05   Chazz, take a breath and a paragraph or two.   Muzikat

11-17-05   God forbid the little guys (like me) who have spent themselv ...   Dweller

11-17-05   Prices reflect demand! the question i have isn't so much abo ...   Mechans

11-17-05   Look around a little more. i find new records at amoeba in ...   Ejlif

11-17-05   A part of me finds this to be very good news. i think if the ...   Jjmali

11-16-05   Wow - that's a mouthful! but much is true, the rich are get ...   Opalchip

11-17-05   The thrift stores and used lp stores in my town still have l ...   Rgordonpf

11-17-05   I don't have a clue what you are trying to say, as i stopped ...   Dick_schneiders

11-17-05   "a fool and his money are soon parted." nobody fo ...   Judy426

11-17-05   I'm sorry, but i didn't understand what the heck you were ta ...   Case05

11-17-05   Thanks for the post chazzbo, which lays out the current lp s ...   Goheelz

11-17-05   If you are a "collector" of anything, you can usua ...   Hedgehog

11-17-05   No chance. we all want instant gratification but it's not go ...   Jazzvinyl

11-17-05   I believe a good reason why prices are going up is the popul ...   Justlisten

11-17-05   Judy426, i thinks it's actually "a fool and his money a ...   Byfo

11-17-05   Wow! and your point is.............? ;^) the economy sucks a ...   R_f_sayles

11-18-05   My solution: belt drive transport modded by dan wright.   Psychicanimal

11-18-05   How do you get lp's into that psychic ?   Albertporter

11-18-05   I am in agreement with many of the other posters when i say. ...   Ozzy62

11-18-05   Psychic writes what he wants in spite of what he reads.   Wc65mustang

11-18-05   Long original post, decent reading. agree. stopped even look ...   Elizabeth

11-19-05   I have been collecting records since around 1967. i have col ...   Qdrone

11-19-05   Here's a recent example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.d ...   Opalchip

11-19-05   Death to the lp!? just toke a quick reality check on the cur ...   R_f_sayles

11-19-05   Chazzbo, guess the six pack got to you joe, 'cause the way ...   Skyeenter

11-20-05   Nah, my solution makes $sen$e...   Psychicanimal

11-20-05: Plinko
well, at least those who horde and who have a zillion lps that they never listened to generally aren't complaining about prices. America is one greedy, wasteful country.
you want a retirement fund, buy stock, IRAs, etc...supply and demand is okay. speculative lp buying is a disgrace.

Plinko  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


11-20-05   Jealously rears it's ugly head. you make your way in this wo ...   Qdrone

11-20-05   Nobody asked you to apologize. ??? we're here to talk, opin ...   Plinko

11-21-05   Plinko, what makes you think there is any disgrace? i'm seri ...   R_f_sayles

11-22-05   I am not against used lp's becoming a commodity rather than ...   Gadfly

11-22-05   I'll admit my wording was too strong but i simply don't find ...   Plinko

11-22-05   Collecting vinyl for profit is no different than wine, stamp ...   Stanhifi

11-22-05   I don't think the prices on ebay are so outrageous when you ...   Jyprez

11-23-05   No, really, i am of the same mind. my post meant only to elu ...   Gadfly

11-23-05   I've got to say that $70 dollars for a record is a wee bit h ...   Gadfly

11-23-05   Chazzbo, i have found the blue note reissues from the 70's ( ...   Jyprez

11-23-05   Anybody buying lp's as a long term investment at current pri ...   Opalchip

11-23-05   I've been a music lover all my life,i was the guy who collec ...   Qdrone

11-23-05   You may be right opalchip, lp's at a few hundred dollars may ...   Jyprez

11-24-05   Geez louise you guy"s!listen i know typos are annoying ...   Chazzbo

11-24-05   It would seem that with all the new high end turntables, car ...   R_f_sayles

11-24-05   Chazzbo, dump the politics. nobody's interested and this is ...   Judy426

11-24-05   listen i know typos are annoying and distracting it transce ...   Stanhifi

11-24-05   Damn you, chazzbo for kicking my puppy and taking my last me ...   Letch

11-25-05   If you live near hollywood i heard aarons is going out of bu ...   Qdrone

11-27-05   Qdrone thanks for the tip.r f sayeles also added the most re ...   Chazzbo

11-28-05   On the contrary. i'd see these high prices as a healthy ind ...   Aroc

11-28-05   Chazzbo, i think you wore the auditors here on a'gon out. th ...   R_f_sayles

11-28-05   Jeez: am i the only one who ordered/received "every al ...   Dekay

11-29-05   This is the bigest waste of time i may have ever came across ...   Chadnliz

11-29-05   Chadnliz, imho why do you even care to bother wasting your t ...   R_f_sayles

11-29-05   Chazzbo i can relate with fema. in the northridge quake my t ...   Qdrone

11-29-05   If the prices are so high that they deter you from getting m ...   Onhwy61

11-29-05   Onhwy61 good point and i have done that with some mosaic box ...   Chazzbo

11-29-05   It was the politics that i took issue with, nothing more. i ...   Chadnliz


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