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Super Scoutmaster or Teres?

I'm looking to upgrade my VPI HW19 Junior turntable and after speaking at length with Mike at VPI today, I'm close to deciding to get the Super Scoutmaster. Before doing so, I'm wondering if a Teres 245 or 255 turntable would be the better choice. With a $900 Origin Live tonearm, the Teres would cost about a thousand dollars less, and I've heard great things about their tables, especially their motors. On the other hand, I feel comfortable with the stability of VPI as a company and am impressed with the basic turntable that I have. I also like the outer ring clamp that they provide to hold down the vinyl. I'd like to hear your views.

Mlkiz (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

11-23-04

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11-24-04 I think you mean the teres would cost $1000 more than the sc ... Pmotz

11-24-04 I never compared the scoutmaster to the teres. however, in ... Twl

11-24-04 Pmotz, the original question is regarding the super scoutmas ... Sbank

11-24-04 Get the turntable which using stand alone motor...... Edle

11-24-04 The super scoutmaster is awesome man, i would take it over t ... Readster

11-24-04 Damn, gotta read the fine print! Pmotz

11-24-04 Edle, good advice, but they both have freestanding motors. ... Dougdeacon

11-24-04 In long run, you can further improve the performance of the ... Edle

11-24-04 Edle, rather sweeping statement re: quality of vpi products. ... Slipknot1

11-24-04 ...or lack of! Vvrinc

11-24-04 Just a reminder: not everyone has english as his or her firs ... Rushton

11-24-04 (english is my second language.) my sarcasm was directed mo ... Vvrinc

11-24-04 My post was two-fold: one, to ask for clarification of a swe ... Slipknot1

11-24-04 Vvrinc, i agree that edle's vpi bash lacked a lot of sensiti ... Rushton

11-24-04 Sklipknot1, if edle were attacking teres instead of vpi,wo ... Audio999

11-24-04 I meant 2 years. Audio999

11-24-04 Teres, vpi,sme, walker (insert brand here). i still would ha ... Slipknot1

11-24-04 Point taken. Audio999

11-25-04 Excellent point joe. well now that that's over (hopefully!) ... Kehut

11-26-04 i think the scoutmaster is a fine table. the only thing tha ... Artar1

11-30-04 I have a scoutmaster with all the super upgrades (center cla ... Morris

12-04-04: C123666
I would not worry about whether Teres will be around in a few years or not. Basically, if that is a concern buy a spare bearing. Any quality motor can be substituted for the Teres motor in the event of a failure and inability to obtain a replacement.

I would, furthermore, urge you to consider the Scheu Premier Mk II. It looks a great table and I've seen two for sale in the past couple of years; both sold instantly for more than used tables typically sell for. Chris Feicker/Scheu advised me a Premier II with the dual arm option and a Scheu Classic Unipivot (12" version) would cost 2200 US including shipping. As there is no sales tax involved that has to be the deal of the century for a reference class turntable. The 12" was recommended by Chris when I mentioned my usage of Denon DL103R cartridges.

Teres, Scheu, top of the line VPA; take your pick as they are all up there in the top tier of table.
C123666 (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

12-27-04 In response to the vpi 10.5 memorial arm not being any good ... Vv32bl

12-27-04 Isn't vpi supposed to release a jmw 9 tonearm with an antisk ... Themadmilkman

12-28-04 C123666 - where to buy a premier with scheu tonearm for that ... Cnut

01-04-05 You contact scheu directly. that was the price i was quoted ... C123666

01-04-05 C123666 writes:at ces 2004, reference audio mods had a morsi ... Metralla

01-07-05 There is more than one model. i think he calls it the cm1 . ... C123666

01-13-05 I contacted carlo about the cm-1 and he responded today with ... Mab33

01-16-05 Pity....and therein lies the problem with purchasing very lo ... C123666