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  Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas
Hi everyone,

Please use this thread to post the results of your testing of the 2-step formulas. Thank you.

Best regards,
Paul Frumkin
Paul_frumkin  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-07-04
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09-07-04   New formulas of what?   Kr4

09-08-04   The "latest and greatest" vinyl cleaning fluids ab ...   4yanx

09-08-04   4yanx, i read through the entire thread in some detail. you ...   Jeffloistarca

09-08-04   I thought it was odd that i couldn't find that thread! gues ...   Aroc

09-08-04   Hi everyone, i don't know why the prior thread was pulled. ...   Paul_frumkin

09-08-04   Paul, i've yet to receive my samples but will post my findi ...   Lugnut

09-08-04   Have known paul for a number of years and please don't mista ...   Brashgordon

09-08-04   well, jeff, if you actually did read the entire thread in s ...   4yanx

09-08-04   I am one of the 20 testers and find paul's solution to be ex ...   Thafler

09-08-04   Paul, i have yet to receive my samples for testing....   Slipknot1

09-08-04   4yanx, like i said... i'm no chemist so whatever answers or ...   Jeffloistarca

09-08-04   I agree with 4yanx that this thread seems to be nothing more ...   jes45@

09-08-04   I don't understand jeff's logic at all. just because he is ...   Viggen

09-08-04   Hi everyone, i have asked a'gon why the prior thread was pu ...   Paul_frumkin

09-08-04   Viggen, you can point to all sorts of empirical data and t ...   Jeffloistarca

09-08-04   I am not one bit surprised that you've taken the approach th ...   4yanx

09-08-04   Before this thread gets yanked, i'm going to jump in on paul ...   Mrkidknow

09-08-04   I know first hand from past e-mails with both disc doctor's ...   Motdathird

09-08-04   This reminds me of the whole hrs cables fiasco. remember tha ...   jes45@

09-08-04   I have an idea. admittedly, it's my idea ... and therefore ...   Paul_frumkin

09-08-04   "boris, we must get moose and squirrel, each one have h ...   Fatparrot

09-08-04   Fatparrot .. i vill gif you halv ... if i get natasha.   Paul_frumkin

09-08-04   Nyet!!! unless you are fearless leader!   Fatparrot

09-09-04   I am frankly alarmed.   Viggen

09-09-04   I don't believe anyone asked for the 'secret formula'. in t ...   Motdathird

09-09-04   What is the difference between buying a "branded" ...   Sean

09-09-04   Just to reiterate, there's absolutely nothing wrong with ask ...   Viggen

09-09-04   Sean, thanks for a well reasoned addition to a thread that h ...   Dougdeacon

09-09-04   How abot this... if you don't want to try the product - don' ...   Jjmali

09-09-04   Regarding the safety issue ... i tested the solutions on a f ...   Paul_frumkin

09-09-04   Jjmali, as you can see, mr. frumkin himself is open to sugge ...   Dougdeacon

09-09-04   Another precaution: this was on the prior thread, but i sho ...   Paul_frumkin

09-09-04   Do you recommend a carbon fibre brush? if so, which? they al ...   Jyprez

09-09-04   Hi jyprez, carbon fiber brushes have advantages and disadva ...   Paul_frumkin

09-09-04   Here are some very early initial impressions of paul's clean ...   Slipknot1

09-10-04   For sake of clarity, when i mentioned "air drying" ...   Sean

09-10-04   Thanks for the input slipknot. i have a lot of old lps that ...   Viggen

09-10-04   Based on slipknot's report i am left wondering which of the ...   Dan_ed

09-10-04   Slipknot1, this makes me anxious to receive my samples. it s ...   Lugnut

09-10-04   I'm waiting too, and it does sound promising. i planned on ...   Jphii

09-10-04   I have just finished reading this thread for the first time, ...   Goyescas

09-10-04   Would it also make sense to clean some records with paul's f ...   Dougdeacon

09-10-04   Hi dougdeacon, that was one of my points - do it both ways, ...   Goyescas

09-10-04   Hi kurt, we must have posted almost simultaneously. yours wa ...   Dougdeacon

09-10-04   This is very interesting. the vinyl enthusiatsts are all wor ...   Eldartford

09-10-04   Some further observations: using the enzymatic 1st stage, th ...   Slipknot1

09-10-04: Paul_frumkin
Re: Distilled Water Rinse

It's hard for me to say whether improvements will result from a distilled water rinse as a third step. That's because my self-designed RCM (photo available under "systems") uses a powerful 1 hp. vacuum motor, and I am confident in its suction power. (Prior to deciding to build my own RCM, I e-mailed VPI 3 times asking for the rating of their vacuum motor. VPI never responded ... which helped me to decide to build my own).

Certainly, I would recommend removing as much of the cleaner fluid -- now laced with the grunge it dissolved or lifted off -- as possible. If you are less than confident in the suction power of your RCM, then perhaps it would be best to either (1) use a distilled water rinse as a third step, or (2) if the record is still damp at all, use lint-free cotton toweling or a lint-free woven cotton pad to sop up any residual cleaner fluid.

BTW ... does it drive anyone else buggy when, by the time you get your cleaned LP over to your turntable and get ready to cue up, dust has landed on your LP? For a time I used canned compressed air (sold in office supplies for cleaning keyboards, etc) to blow the dust off the LP. But the stuff would frequently spit some kind of liquid on the LP with the compressed air. I have found an alternate solution. Here's the URL address to a page at American Science & Surplus' website:

www.sciplus

At the top of this page is a PC cleaning kit for $4.95. The REAL attraction of this item is that it includes a little battery operated vacuum/blower ... which is perfect for that last second dusting-off the LP before you cue up. It's not powerful, but it is sufficient. If the link doesn't work, it's their item No. 34158.

More samples were shipped out on Wednesday and Thursday, so more feedback should be available soon.

Best regards to everyone,
Paul Frumkin

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09-11-04   Use of enzymatic cleaners is the latest greatest thing for g ...   Eldartford

09-11-04   Go for it, eldartford! let us know how the oxyclean works o ...   Dan_ed

09-11-04   Yikes! i hope eldartford's comments are tongue-in-cheek.   Paul_frumkin


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