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  A difficult LP reproduction question
I have a nice high end system and wish to add a second turntable (for fun!). The choices are likely Thorens TD124MK ll or Lenco L75. Both these are old technology and will spin 78 RPM and use idler drive.

Desire is to experiment with moving magnet cartridge, inexpensive phono stages and 78 RPM records to name but a few.

Here are but a few of the economy priced phono stages that I've been researching for the past three weeks. (Hope that explains my lack of posting lately).

Seduction
http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobespc/Seduction/seduction.htm

EAR 834P Deluxe
http://www.ear-usa.com/earproducts.htm

Lehmann Audio Black Cube SE
http://www.amusicdirect.com/products/detail.asp?sku=ALEHBCPLUS

Antique Soundlab Mini
http://www.divertech.com/aslminiphono.htm

Musical Fidelity X-LPSv3
http://www.musicalfidelity.com/xponframeset.html

NAD PP2
http://www.nadelectronics.com/hifi_amplifiers/pp2_closerlook.htm

Any Audiogon member that have direct experience with any combination of these, I would appreciate your comments.
Albertporter  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

04-12-04
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04-12-04   78 reproduction needs different riaa curves than 33 lp repro ...   Elizabeth

04-12-04   True elizabeth. i found an article at mechanical music dige ...   Albertporter

04-12-04   I have heard favorable comment on a radio shack ic-based pho ...   Eldartford

04-12-04   I actually heard that rat shack thing. believe it or not, y ...   Jphii

04-12-04   Have any of you heard the bottlehead seduction? there are c ...   Albertporter

04-12-04: Buscis2
Hi Albert, I find it interesting that you are also delving into 78rpm reproduction. A very close friend of mine (and music fanatic) initiated burning CD compilations of 78s that he has collected for 35 years. A lot of older opera recordings in particular.

He is extremely fussy about sound quality and has made quite a study of 78s. I know that this is not in your posted vein of interest, although it happens to be the piece my buddy is using for a phono pre. He chose this unit for exactly the reason that Elizabeth and yourself were discussing. I find it an unusual coincidence just having this discussion for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?phoncart.htm

It is my understanding that there were actually seven different equalization curves used through the course of about 60 years. He had found very wide deviations in sonic and frequency balance based on the actual record release period. He found the above unit to be a very thorough and complete solution.

I just thought you might find this interesting.

Also, I do have some experience with one phono pre on your list, the Black Cube. I used it until I began experimenting with the Monolithic pre and power supply. I found the Monolithic to be slightly more open and quiet, revealing marginally more detail than the Black Cube. I did like the adjustability of the Monolithic very much as loading and gain adjustments were quite diverse.

Regards & Happy listening, Ed.

Buscis2  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


04-12-04   I'm sorry albert. when you click on the link, it brings you ...   Buscis2

04-12-04   The current fascination with "rim drive" (idler wh ...   Eldartford

04-12-04   Eldartford, you appear to not like old (inexpensive) technol ...   Albertporter

04-12-04   What cartridge are you considering? i have seen some special ...   Restock

04-12-04   Hi all fwiw i have enjoyed using a lenco 75 with mono goldr ...   Bornin50

04-12-04   Albertporter...like wine, some old technology is superb, and ...   Eldartford

04-12-04   Well i find this discussion of cheap'n fun phono stages fasc ...   Johnnantais

04-12-04   Albert, jean turned me on to the asl mini, which he loves, w ...   Bin

04-12-04   Eldartford. i don't need anything nor would i ask it of yo ...   Albertporter

04-12-04   The grado family of cartridge builders have been around for ...   Theaudiotweak

04-12-04   Albertporter...i guess i didn't grasp that your objective is ...   Eldartford

04-12-04   I can help you there, eldartford. the lenco can play over a ...   Johnnantais

04-12-04   Johnnantais...thanks for the good writeup about idler wheel ...   Eldartford

04-13-04   Johnnatais has answered the variable speed questions about t ...   Albertporter

04-13-04   Eldartford, the speed variations caused by belt reaction fal ...   Johnnantais

04-13-04   Another deck, unfortunately more rare (particularly outside ...   Willbewill

04-13-04   Johnnantais...a massive turntable will prevent high frequenc ...   Eldartford

04-13-04   Eldartford, do you know i never actually tried to play 78s o ...   Johnnantais

04-13-04   Where did the information above come from about "mass l ...   Rich121

04-13-04   Richard, the information came from nowhere but simple physic ...   Johnnantais

04-14-04   I opened my new decca arm today and it is beautiful. unbeli ...   Albertporter

04-14-04   Richard for an explanation? of the 'belt stretch/speed anom ...   Bornin50

04-14-04   Richard apologies - this is the correct link http://www.i ...   Bornin50

04-14-04   Excellent site, bornin, it's added to my vinyl file!   Johnnantais

04-15-04   Still not hearing from audiogon members as to which phono st ...   Albertporter

04-15-04   Dear albert & others: two links, one for multicurve riaa, a ...   Gregm

04-15-04   Albert, the ear is nowhere near the mini phono in terms of p ...   Johnnantais

04-15-04   What about the gsl jazz club phonostage, which is designed s ...   Bmckenney

04-15-04   Bmckenney, that would be perfect. i hope you make that liste ...   Albertporter

04-15-04   Albert: will you be listening to the 78's in true mono? pr ...   Dekay

04-15-04   Cool idea dekay. if i take over another room my wife will h ...   Albertporter

04-16-04   Don't be a spoil sport albert. your wife may just be intere ...   Dekay

04-16-04   Then we would have to get one of those dogs like rca used in ...   Albertporter

04-16-04   Albert, i talked to a buddy of mine who built the newest ve ...   Jphii

04-16-04   Thanks for the link jphii. good news too as this is a true ...   Albertporter

04-17-04   I just wrote an email to the mingda people, asking about the ...   Albertporter

04-17-04   Mingda and chineese tube gear..... i was considering that o ...   Bmckenney

04-17-04   To do this right, someone would need a sample of five or six ...   Albertporter

04-17-04   As for cartridges, you might take a look at grado. there is ...   Jc2000

04-18-04   I was thinking two head shells and two cartridges. 78's are ...   Albertporter


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