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09-26-02
I'm with you. i love cd's and the digital technology. once ... Dweller
09-26-02
I was the happiest person in the world this week when i sold ... Twl
09-26-02
I dabble in both worlds. i also have an sacd player. elmuncy ... Jmcgrogan2
09-26-02
When cd's sound can match that of a good analog rig then i a ... Thorty40
09-26-02
That's an interesting point about "why not tape?". ... Kthomas
09-26-02
To answer your question from the viewpoint of someone who st ... Viridian
09-27-02
Viridian, good post. Judit
09-27-02
I have just begun a rexamination of my life (which of course ... Gbeard
09-27-02
i also miss album covers. i was talking to a friend the oth ... Blkadr
09-27-02
Viridian, the studio mastering speed is 15ips. at speed of ... Marakanetz
09-27-02
I've tweaked my cd-based system to where (to my ear) there i ... Danner
09-27-02
Hey marakanetz...15ips and 30ips are both used. it depends ... Phild
09-27-02
Thanks for the kind words judit. marakenetz, i was speaking ... Viridian
09-27-02
Blkadr ... you're right. sound quality aside, lps are much ... Seandtaylor99
09-27-02
I belive there is a happy medium and both can co exist quit ... Natalie
09-27-02
I have been into digital for the entire time i have really b ... Tok20000
09-27-02
I've been collecting vinyl since the mid 60's so i predate d ... Lugnut
09-27-02
For what it's worth, i find the regimen of having to disc do ... Timwat
09-27-02
Why vinyl? why not. like lugnut i have albums that are 30 ... hfloyd5@
09-27-02
I believe now is the best time to jump back to vinyl. why!? ... Edle
09-27-02
The sonic differences: just what is it about vinyl’s ... Thomasheisig
09-27-02
Nice analysis thomasheisig! kf Tok20000
09-27-02
For a long time, i wouldn't buy a tt or records. everytime ... Lakefrontroad
09-27-02
Just a couple of additional thoughts. when cd came out it wa ... Blkadr
09-27-02: Basement
I read an article about 5-6 years ago where sony built the best, 24-96 digital recorder they could, and they took it to oceanway studios. In short, the analog tape still won out. There are more posters here that would know more about that than I would.
There are meny ways to view the differences/superiority of cd's and records, but for sound, the record will always beat the cd provided the playing field is equal.
The first reason is there is a LOT more information that can be stored on a typical lp than a 16-bit cd.
The second is that the technology and cost involed for accurate reproduction of a cd is more complicated and costlier than a record.
For 100$ or 200$ it is probably hard to find an anolog rig that would sound better to most people than a cd player of that amount. But I could easily put together a record player for 400$ that would outclass a 400$ to 1000$ cd player. There are many record playing systems out there that cost 2500$ that no 16-bit player could touch in terms of sound quality at any price, that sounds so obviously better that it is not a matter of opinion.
The reason cd's get a reputation for sounding harsh the way you desribe is because when things go wrong in a cd player, or rather, things in the design are a limitation to sound quality, that is the first thing to happen with the sound quality. Vinal is the opposite. But you can easily have a record player that sounds harsh and nasty and metallic. For me, it is usually a struggle to get my cd player to sound as clean and detailed as my analog.
Consider this- a speaker is a magnet, with a coil, and produces sound by means of a varying electrical input. A microphone is a diaphram that has a magnet, a coil, and produses an electrical output. A tape head produces a signal through a coil onto magnetic tape. Do you see it? All processed the same way.
A cartridge is like a microphone but replaces a diaphram getting soundwaves from the air with a needle that gets signal from a hard surface. So it is pretty easy to understand that a record playing system can ultimately be so capable of a high level of fidelity.
There is a lot more that has to happen in a digital playback system to produce a signal to listen to. And that signal, which started from a magnet/coil has to end with a magnet/coil.
Sure, there are a lot of things/alterations that can, and do happen to the signal that make sound quality suffer in a record player, but a lot of these same things also apply in degragading the sound quality in a cd player. They just have a different effect on the sound quality. The same rules of preserving the integrity of the signal still applies.
If you don't believe me, (extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof), try spending some money on analog the way you spend it on digital. It's quite honestly hard to say how much, because the more you have spent on a cd player, the less of a percentage of that you would have to spend on a record playing system, But you could go to your local dealer, and say, "my digital system cost me 'x' amount of dollers, and if that analog system for the same amount sounds better than my cd, I'll buy it, and eat my shoe".
If it doesn't, e-mail me and I'll give you 10 bucks.
Basement (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
09-28-02
Thomasheisig, you realise, of course, that film playback is ... inpepinnovations@
09-29-02
Inpepinnovations, something more to say ? or is that all ? i ... Thomasheisig
09-29-02
Come on, inpepinnovations -- that's 32 analogue frames/sec : ... Gregm
09-29-02
Thomas & greg, i am just pointing out the dangers of using a ... inpepinnovations@
01-19-03
I give up. you're right. i've just ordered a new, to me, tur ... Elmuncy
01-20-03
Really bad analog to digital conversions is a good reason. s ... Ntscdan
01-23-03
I was just browsing at the sf stereo yesterday and came acro ... 3chihuahuas
03-01-03
The ticks, pops and maintenance of vinyl are just not worth ... boje@
03-02-03
Because it touches, moves and inspires every time. that's wh ... Tuboo
03-04-03
I must chime in here as a long time cd listener and brand ne ... Matt8268
03-04-03
I love the way the original question concerned open reel tap ... Viridian
03-05-03
Viridian, perhaps because it is impossible to find new relea ... Albertporter
03-05-03
No, albert, i can't read it the way that you do. the questio ... Viridian
03-05-03
I have recently gotten back into vinyl after 15 years. all t ... Bld63
03-05-03
Digital breaks up the unitary spatial perspective into plane ... Asa
03-05-03
I know at least one person who still uses open reel as a mai ... Nrchy
03-05-03
Asa, well said. i agree completely. Unsound
03-06-03
Oh my god, unsound, we've met in the middle! i saw your post ... Asa
03-06-03
I am eating peanuts, don't bother me! oh, you want some? ;-) 6chac
03-07-03
Hi william! yes, i can see that, like elmucy, that if ticks ... Asa
03-11-03
I like vinyl for the "cheapness". just today i bo ... Playtrim
03-11-03
No one loves vinyl more than me...but its about the music..n ... jrd@
03-12-03
I agree with that too jrd, wholeheartedly. but it would be n ... Asa
03-13-03
It is about two years ago, that i started experimenting with ... Detlof
03-14-03
Heres my 2 cents worth 1st pops and clicks, pops are dirt an ... Rockinroni
03-14-03
Nice post ron. Asa
03-14-03
Thanks ron. you addressed the importance of quality and how ... Albertporter
03-15-03
Ron points well made. it really is separating the forest fr ... Gajgmusic
03-15-03
Very good points ron, in fact i sometimes tend to suspect, t ... Detlof
04-11-03
With the utmost of respect i'll recount a recent experience. ... domo@
04-11-03
Well spoken from there downunder! hear-hear! ps: you forgot ... Detlof
04-11-03
Hello detlof, good to see you again along these shores. of c ... Gregm
04-11-03
Pops and cracks ?? i hear nothing but music from my black an ... Audio999
04-15-03
As many may already know there's a nice web page out there e ... Agonanon
04-21-03
Sooo coool, domo. Asa
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