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Anyone else notice that the last five years or so digital players have improved to a point where there equal to analog and without all the fiddle f---ing of the latter. It hasn't been simple or easy or inexpensive but it's been rewarding.
Tmsorosk  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

12-27-11
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12-27-11   They have improved. i would not say equal to analog. digital ...   Ahendler

12-27-11   I'm not sure digital has improved over the past 5 years. co ...   Chayro

12-27-11   Sorry, in my experience digital is not the equal of well sor ...   Rockitman

12-27-11   Simple answer is yes!   Jdub39

12-27-11   With my ayre cx-7e(mp) running balanced into any ayre ax-7e, ...   Nrenter

12-27-11   It's ironic that digital has vastly improved in recent years ...   Gfcf424892

12-27-11   Rockitman,,, nice system, nice system link, thanks for invit ...   Tmsorosk

12-27-11   What are the pros and cons of each? remind us, esp those ...   Rok2id

12-27-11   Replaced my 1998 cdp in 2010, it embarassed the one it repla ...   Gshepardbuster

12-27-11   I have put a lot of time and expense into my digital, and it ...   Onetwothreego

12-27-11   Tmorosk, i see you are still dreaming. this type of discussi ...   Dev

12-27-11   Improvements in sound are highly subjective. i prefer some ...   Mrtennis

12-28-11   Digital is improving rapidly and it will continue to improve ...   Tomcy6

12-28-11   As usual those who prefer vinyl will defend it as best and t ...   Wildoats

12-28-11   My electrocompaniet emc-1up is still the best player i've he ...   Danielk141

12-28-11   I still use an adcom da converter. i bought and returned a s ...   Elizabeth

12-28-11   i have a memory transport, not a cd player. it plays up to ...   Rockitman

12-28-11   Wildoats, i do not agree with with several points made in yo ...   Dev

12-29-11   Okydoky dev   Wildoats

12-29-11   It's a common high-end condition. if the rest of the world s ...   Rok2id

12-29-11   I'm not claiming one format is better than the other but i s ...   Tmsorosk

12-29-11   One can make the case that components of the 60's through t ...   Mrtennis

12-30-11   I've recently been listening to a john scofield recording ca ...   Wolf_garcia

12-30-11   Mr. t , better is subjective, but wow, " components f ...   Tmsorosk

12-30-11   Tmsorosk, your thread above and comments made saying; " ...   Dev

12-30-11   Tmsorosk, i found the following thread posted by you so othe ...   Dev

12-30-11   I never never go back to see what members have posted in the ...   Rok2id

12-30-11   Rok2id, are you for real? that's your problem then isn't, i ...   Dev

12-30-11   That this forum needs is just a little more civility.   Rok2id

12-30-11   Rok2id, i believe the forums all and all are very civil but ...   Dev

12-30-11   Dev, iv'e owned many fine analog rigs in the past and am exp ...   Tmsorosk

12-31-11   Tmsosk, that's not a answer, who cares what you have listene ...   Dev

12-31-11   Hi tim: for the record the sound i most preferred was the f ...   Mrtennis

12-31-11   Yes. is the short answer. the ones i have tried are more na ...   Chadeffect

12-31-11   In my personal opinion, both vinyl and digital have greatly ...   Tbg

12-31-11   Wolf garcia said it best earlier, brilliantly using artistic ...   Wolf_garcia

12-31-11   Wolf_garcia, you might add confusing here with hear, weather ...   Tbg

12-31-11: Nonoise
I think digital has risen to the level of analog as long as it is a well sorted out system.

I grew up with tubes and turntables for the better part of my life and hated CDs when they first came out. Now it's all nostalgia for me and nothing more.

Yes, I can hear the difference from out in a hall as to whether of not a TT or CDP is playing but I think that is due to my memory being able to sort it out and it is nothing more than a romantic notion that compels me to listen. Even TVs were tubed in my days and that adds a lot of conditioning to what I thought was accurate sound. Being conditioned so makes me prefer, at first, analog to digital, but what I perceive to be the more accurate is digital.

I'm even willing to state that what I hear from a TT, though great sounding, is ever so slightly off the mark in terms of accuracy, like an overly warm tube would be in an amp: romantic at first blush but not accurate.

Its been a long time since I've heard a good TT rig but from what I remember, there is that instant background noise floor that comes across as dark grey instead of black and now that my ears are used to the silence between notes from a digital source, a TT is just that more noisy as to be noticeable so as to be a distraction. And, like tubes, if one were to change out an arm or cartridge there is an immediate difference that most anyone could tell which begs the question: where is/was the accuracy that is so highly touted?

If one can change the nature of playback by changing a cartridge (or tube) then the accuracy question is not really a question but is nothing more than a flavor or coloring that one prefers for the moment. And that I can do without.

I only say this from how I prefer to listen and not as any kind of knock on those who love the sound of TTs. This is nothing more than a rationalization of my listening preferences, in response the OPs question.

All the best,
Nonoise

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01-01-12   It's about at least seeming smarter. actually being smarter ...   Wolf_garcia

01-01-12   And learn the proper use of "your" and "you'r ...   Fiddler

01-01-12   Well said nonoise , both formats have there virtues, it's ju ...   Tmsorosk

12-31-11   It's fruitless to say one is better than the other. they ar ...   Audiofeil

01-03-12   It's fruitless for there not to be fruit.   Wolf_garcia

01-04-12   Audiofeil, hopefully we will not have to choose. whether it' ...   Tmsorosk


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