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  Rega DAC vs. EE Minimax vs. Centrance vs. W4S 2
This is a summary of results comparing the Rega DAC against the W4S 2, Centrance Dacmini, and the Eastern Electric Minimax (First version).

The Rega has been running a signal since last Saturday, so according to some reports it may be about 150 hours from sounding it's best. The comparison to the W4S was done with a fully broken in Rega from Signature Sound. Powercord is a Pangea AC-14 (nothing fancy). The main sources were a Oppo DV981 and Macbook pro. System is Merlin TSM-MXr on Skylan stands, Manley Stingray II, MJ Acoustics 150 MK2 sub, Cardas wires.

Vs. Centrance DACmini
First of all...this thing is cool! It's perfect for a headphone system and it's form-factor matches the MACmini. Fed by the Oppo it provided fantastic midrange and smooth highs, but bass was less defined and a bit muddy. There seemed to be just a bit more glare from the DACmini as well, but it had a deeper soundstage than the Rega. The Rega had bass well handled and the soundstage was quite wide, especially on live recordings where it did a great job of capturing the scope of the venue. The owner of the DACmini and I agreed that that it had the Rega beat by a small margin in soundstage, but the Rega was the winner with better bass detail and less glare. Any change of cables or speaker or amp could probably swing the results differently.

Vs. Eastern Electric Minimax
I was excited to hear this unit since it's gotten a ton of good reviews. But...wow, my system did not agree with it. Here was (I assume) a good example of poor synergy. The Minimax sounded overly thick in the midrange (less so with the tube switched out) and this quality made it difficult to focus on it's clearly sweet high end. We tried it with some cheaper AQ cables, but this issue did not go away. My friend says it's quite stunning in his system and I don't doubt it, but in my system it was "thick" much like the modified Jolida 100a CDP I once owned.

Vs. W4S DAC 2
This unit was well burned in and it went up against the Demo Rega I auditioned in my system. The W4S 2 had a Signal powercord while the Rega had it's stock cord. I reviewed the Rega DAC in the review section and I have since concluded that the Rega's "less is more" design approach led to it's superior performance with Redbook CDs. It won mainly based on soundstage where it provided a deeper effect, while the W4S 2 floated a image well, but it was less dimensional. The W4S 2 seemed to extract a bit more detail, but also sounded too bright on some tracks. Once again we concluded that they were both doing a fine job and a change of associated gear could skew results differently. The W4S is certainly more versatile.

After listening to these units in my system and playing with some very pricey CDP's in recent months I've concluded that DAC's and CDP's offer the smallest upgrade range. Good DACs and CDP's are very close in performance so be suspicious when someone says one unit blows away another. As others have pointed out we get into some seriously expensive "diminishing returns" with this gear. I feel that the Rega (and I truly love the Centrance as well) offers great performance in the mid priced DAC arena. It bested the Audio Aero prima I tried and has better soundstage that several other units around the 5K mark. How it performs in a given system will be mostly a measure of the synergy with your other components and nothing definitive should be assumed by reading these findings or any other!

Cheers,

Rob
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11-15-11
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11-15-11   This is interesting to me. i had the centrance dacmini and w ...   Foster_9

11-15-11   You don't mention which filter setting you were using on the ...   Stanwal

11-15-11   I previously owned the ee and can concur it was 'full' sound ...   Meiwan

11-15-11   I've been burning in the pangea ac-14, which has given the r ...   Robbob

11-15-11   I certainly don't want to get into a huge debate over cables ...   Meiwan

11-15-11   "good dacs and cdp's are very close in performance so b ...   Anonymoustao

11-15-11   After spending considerable money on the merlin and stingray ...   Robbob

11-15-11   "the minimax sounded overly thick in the midrange" ...   Tubegroover

11-15-11   Tubegroover, the sense of "thickness" was quite s ...   Robbob

11-16-11   Thanks for your review and i agree with your findings on the ...   Nonoise

11-16-11   Nonoise, i really like the centrance and the glare that i s ...   Robbob

11-16-11   Rob, thanks for the 'clarity' in your response. i, too, had ...   Nonoise

11-16-11   Gentlemen: i have the esatern electric dac and i use the ps ...   Mrtennis

11-17-11   Hi, mrtennis... as i said, nothing definitive should be der ...   Robbob

11-17-11   Robbob and nonoise, paul darwin from rega stated that the c ...   Kbarkamian

11-18-11   "but last night we spoke again and he added that the ee ...   Tubegroover

11-18-11   Tubegroover... i can't disagree with anything you've writte ...   Robbob

11-18-11   Looks like the new rega apollo r should be available quite s ...   Robbob

11-18-11   opamp rolling the minimax dac, takes it to another listeni ...   Nickjn

11-19-11   I listened to the ee minimax in the owner's system along wit ...   Robbob

11-19-11   Hi robob: are you referring to the inexpensive centramce da ...   Mrtennis

11-19-11   Having heard the dac-2 in 6+ rigs, i scratch my head when i ...   Face

11-19-11   I couldn't agree with you more face although i've only heard ...   Tubegroover

11-19-11   Perhaps...in relation to the rega, centrance and ee, i shoul ...   Robbob

11-20-11   From your observations rob i have to conclude that there is ...   Tubegroover

11-20-11   In my review of the ee dac plus i point out that that new un ...   Douglas_schroeder

11-20-11: Foster_9
In my review of the EE DAC Plus I point out that that new unit is FAR superior in every respect to the first model. A comparison to the EE Minimax DAC (first version) is not useful in determining the sound of the Plus; the differential sonically is so extreme as to nearly make the first version a completely different DAC by a different manufacturer.
11-20-11: Douglas_schroeder
Your comments above about the Plus are literally music to my ears (pun intended), since I just received the new DAC day before yesterday. Your review of the Plus must not be posted online yet????

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11-20-11   Foster 9, yes, the review has been posted to dagogo.com for ...   Douglas_schroeder

11-20-11   Douglas, can you post a link to the review of the eastern el ...   Foster_9

11-21-11   Foster 9, i have tried to post a link a couple times in the ...   Douglas_schroeder

11-21-11   Doug, i read your excellent review of the plus. having rece ...   Jc4659

11-21-11   Jc4659, thanks for the kind words; i have not heard the linn ...   Douglas_schroeder

11-22-11   Doug, regarding cabling i'd likely be running coaxial from t ...   Jc4659

11-22-11   Jc4659, i prefer not to use optical as i have found it consi ...   Douglas_schroeder

11-23-11: Aolprodj
I had already ordered my MiniMax Plus before i read the Douglas Schroeder review posted to dagogo.com I said to myself this guy is over the top with his praise,I was wrong I believed my Magnepan 3.7's where the best buy in hi end I was wrong it is the Minimax plus.
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11-24-11   Aolprodj - can you provide more info on what you are hearing ...   Jult52

11-24-11   In a few weeks i'll have the chance to listen and compare th ...   Robbob

11-25-11   First is impact and bass it gives my magenepan mg 3.7 more m ...   Aolprodj

11-28-11   Has any one heard the new dac magic plus? twin wolfson wm ...   Aolprodj

11-28-11   The rega does not have a tube, and the centrance does not ha ...   Mrtennis

11-29-11   Mrtennis, it's true that some dacs have tubes and others do ...   Robbob


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