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  Apple Lossless vs iTunes Plus
Any audible difference between the two? I only buy/import from CD's in Apple Lossless but I would like to stop buying CD's.
Sakahara  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-21-09
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02-22-09   Yes. the new itunes format is 256kbs aac which is a lossy co ...   Ckorody

02-22-09   when comparing these file types, do use something other tha ...   Blindjim

02-22-09   I'm also interested in high def downloads but doesn't it mak ...   Jamesw20

02-22-09   Jamesw20 - you're right to be paranoid about your hard drive ...   Sfar

02-22-09   ummm, maybe you think of cd's as spinning magnetic disks, b ...   Jax2

02-22-09   My hard drive became too cluttered with my itunes library so ...   Unclejeff

02-22-09   amen. another moral you are missing: store your itunes lib ...   Jax2

02-22-09   Jax2 - i said "cd's and spinning magnetic disks," ...   Sfar

02-22-09   Sfar - sorry, my bad having misread your post. yes, either ...   Jax2

02-22-09   Jax, i download chunks of the itunes to my iphone and play ...   Unclejeff

02-23-09   The best backup is to share your files with your friends!   Argyro

02-23-09   Sfar you said: “with drives costing $100 per terabyte righ ...   Blindjim

02-23-09   For those of you who don't live in a major metro or prefer t ...   Ckorody

02-23-09   Ckorody - it is only in the ads that agon does not allow hyp ...   Jax2

02-23-09   Correction; a 1tb rocraid is currently just under $300 at a ...   Jax2

02-23-09   Blindjim - i got this lacie drive for $99 when they had a ...   Sfar

02-23-09   sakahara, it is very easy to use your cds to test the itune ...   Edo_musica

02-23-09: Sakahara
I didn't know what iTunes + was at first (thought it was another garbage compression codec like MP3, only slightly better), and once I found out I realized I could import my CD's with AAC to compare. I was curious to hear others opinions though.

My system is very resolving, hearing too, so I will probably notice a difference.

Regarding storage of iTunes Library on external drive; I thought of this too. Wouldn't there be access issues, even with FW800, compared with the system drive? Maybe use NAS instead? It is more sensible though, especially since mine is larger then my system capacity - 140 GB and counting.

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02-23-09: Sakahara
I wonder if these iTunes + lossy files are made from originals? I can only hope.

Is there an obvious audible difference between Apple Lossless, WAV and AIFF? I haven't compared. From what I read Apple Lossless seemed good enough.

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02-23-09   Sakahara, a great number of users have music stored on exter ...   Edo_musica

02-24-09   ckorody…… big thanks. i’ve been out of the hardware loop f ...   Blindjim

02-24-09   there's plenty of threads on this subject if you do a searc ...   Jax2

02-25-09: Sakahara
I'm a MAC. 10+ years of Windows was torture enough. ;-)

I'll have to try moving my iTunes library to an external drive. I've been meaning too.

I would expect the iTunes Plus music to be sourced from either the original or a good 1st gen digital recording. One [audiophile] would expect that and it makes the most sense. But then again, we are talking about an industry who thinks MP3 is fine.

I now recall that I actually did import a CD as ALAC, WAV, and AIFF. It was brief, but I did not hear enough difference to justify more of my drive being consumed . I'll have to do some more comparisons sometime since my system has changed since.

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02-28-09: Sakahara
I realized one important detail about storing iTunes on an external drive; it would require another external drive for backup.

As it is now, I need a minimum of two drives; one for SuperDuper! (bootable) backup, and one for Time Machine. I could get one large drive and partition for those two BU plans, and have another one dedicated for iTunes, but again, the need for an iTunes BU drive, and the possibility of losing both the other BU plans if the partitioned drive failed. Without a iTunes BU, you're toast if that drive fails. And right now I have a BU of it. Imagine having to rip 100's of CD's all over again. My 1 TB main drive is fine for now. Plenty of room to spare with Apple Lossless

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03-08-09: Sakahara
Found a perfect solution; two LaCie 2big Triple 1TB (2-disk RAID). One for the two BU plans (JBOD) and the other for iTunes/Aperture libraries (RAID1).
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03-12-09: Sakahara
Addendum:

The LaCie 2big Triple was a great RAID unit, but too noisy for the desktop, fan runs continuously, 'Auto' switch did nothing (wouldn't sleep), and the one-push-button on the front is 2big and 2bright. It was well built though. Heavy [duty] metal enclosure and drive trays. It's hard finding the perfect solution (4 drives; 2 for RAID 1 / 2 for JBOD separate access).

Looking at CalDigit VR instead. More $$ but more features/expandable/upgradable.

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04-09-09   Blindjim, i'd like to point out for the sake of clarity th ...   Naschbac

04-09-09   Omg naschbac... you've been captured too! this is some scar ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-10-09   yet they most certainly can sound different. it must be th ...   Jax2

04-10-09   Good thought about the new math jax2 but.... to me seems th ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-10-09   The paint-by-numbers is a great illustration, robert (pun no ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Let me ask you a question, since you're convinced that they ...   Naschbac

04-11-09   we are not talking about a word file. it does not have to ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Timing information? you pull down the audio from a cd into ...   Naschbac

04-11-09   Naschbac, what you say makes a lot of sense. as long as the ...   Shadorne

04-11-09   i believe that in reality i can do so. mathematics or comp ...   Jax2

04-11-09   it is probably related to software bugs. if the algorithms ...   Shadorne

04-11-09   It very well could be, shadorne. i don't know...i can only ...   Jax2

04-11-09   and i don't doubt you. here is a manufacturer's explanatio ...   Shadorne

04-11-09   Shadorne - here's a further, long thread on head-fi that ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Hey naschbac. my personal results and conclusions came from ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-11-09   Hey robert - i've done similar comparisons, but with wav fil ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Hey marco. would really like to explore something different ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-12-09   Hi robert - i think there are some flac conversion software ...   Jax2

04-12-09   Just wanted to jump in and thank the posters here for one of ...   Sbank

04-12-09   Hey spencer - thanks for the vote of confidence. i'm sure t ...   Jax2

04-13-09   Some utilities which may be of interest to mac users: xld a ...   Humanmedia

04-13-09   Marco, yeah, i got to hear a friends' modwright transporter ...   Sbank

04-13-09   spender - yes, it really is a damn fine digital front end ( ...   Jax2

04-26-11   Sorry to dig up this old thread, but i was looking for infor ...   Grandpixel

04-29-11   I have done blind testing with aac lossy at 256k and apple l ...   Grege

04-29-11   Grege, i have done the same. 256 kbps with a good compressi ...   Shadorne

04-29-11   Grege, shadorne - my experience has been the same. while i'm ...   Sfar

05-01-11   Reading all this gives me a headache. i've been thinking abo ...   Wildoats

05-01-11   Computer audio is a headache and one you need not suffer. yo ...   Nglazer

05-02-11   Wildouts - you need not get a headache with computer audio. ...   Grege

05-02-11: Sakahara
Update: I'm using XLD -> AIFF.

I recently decided to start using XLD to rip (and re-rip CD collection) to AIFF.

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