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  Apple Lossless vs iTunes Plus
Any audible difference between the two? I only buy/import from CD's in Apple Lossless but I would like to stop buying CD's.
Sakahara  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-21-09
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02-22-09   Yes. the new itunes format is 256kbs aac which is a lossy co ...   Ckorody

02-22-09   when comparing these file types, do use something other tha ...   Blindjim

02-22-09   I'm also interested in high def downloads but doesn't it mak ...   Jamesw20

02-22-09   Jamesw20 - you're right to be paranoid about your hard drive ...   Sfar

02-22-09   ummm, maybe you think of cd's as spinning magnetic disks, b ...   Jax2

02-22-09   My hard drive became too cluttered with my itunes library so ...   Unclejeff

02-22-09   amen. another moral you are missing: store your itunes lib ...   Jax2

02-22-09   Jax2 - i said "cd's and spinning magnetic disks," ...   Sfar

02-22-09   Sfar - sorry, my bad having misread your post. yes, either ...   Jax2

02-22-09   Jax, i download chunks of the itunes to my iphone and play ...   Unclejeff

02-23-09   The best backup is to share your files with your friends!   Argyro

02-23-09   Sfar you said: “with drives costing $100 per terabyte righ ...   Blindjim

02-23-09   For those of you who don't live in a major metro or prefer t ...   Ckorody

02-23-09   Ckorody - it is only in the ads that agon does not allow hyp ...   Jax2

02-23-09   Correction; a 1tb rocraid is currently just under $300 at a ...   Jax2

02-23-09   Blindjim - i got this lacie drive for $99 when they had a ...   Sfar

02-23-09   sakahara, it is very easy to use your cds to test the itune ...   Edo_musica

02-23-09   I didn't know what itunes + was at first (thought it was ano ...   Sakahara

02-23-09   I wonder if these itunes + lossy files are made from origina ...   Sakahara

02-23-09   Sakahara, a great number of users have music stored on exter ...   Edo_musica

02-24-09   ckorody…… big thanks. i’ve been out of the hardware loop f ...   Blindjim

02-24-09   there's plenty of threads on this subject if you do a searc ...   Jax2

02-25-09   I'm a mac. 10+ years of windows was torture enough. ;-) i' ...   Sakahara

02-28-09   I realized one important detail about storing itunes on an e ...   Sakahara

03-08-09   Found a perfect solution; two lacie 2big triple 1tb (2-disk ...   Sakahara

03-12-09   Addendum: the lacie 2big triple was a great raid unit, but ...   Sakahara

04-09-09   Blindjim, i'd like to point out for the sake of clarity th ...   Naschbac

04-09-09   Omg naschbac... you've been captured too! this is some scar ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-10-09   yet they most certainly can sound different. it must be th ...   Jax2

04-10-09: Ridgestreetaudio
Good thought about the New Math Jax2 but....

To me seems the issue is more likely about Placebos. That's what's really freaking me out. It's really become quite an insidious phenomena.

I watched House three nights ago and it dealt with this very infection. It was inevitably an episode with a rare sad ending for House. Dr. House went through all his usual drama and suspense with the hospital staff and the patient which took up most of the episode. In a climatic end when Dr. House finally got the diagnosis correct - patient infected with a Placebo - it was too late. The patient died from a Placebo infection. HELLO? - I think a message was sent! If House missed this I think that should serve as a wake up call for all of us!

I was talking with an enthusiast out East last week. He's part of a rather large Audio Club out there. In March they had about 30 members gathered for their monthly meet and they each did a 'Paint By Numbers' painting together. Surely if mathematics could solely be used to determine what they hear in their playback systems and that, based on identical numbers, there would be no audible difference, a 'Paint By Numbers' test would illustrate and validate that. That was indeed the assumption most of the guys at the meet had. The result? Even though all the 'Paint By Numbers' sets were identical numerically and in every other respect, there were substantial differences between the finished paintings! Most of the guys were totally and absolutely freaked! What's sad is some still desperately denied the differences.

My conclusion, and I hope others begin to see this too, is that Placebo infections are indeed more rampant and insidious than I or anyone else thought.

Let alone the other areas of our lives, in this hobby, whether we're lowly and uneducated or highly esteemed for our double E degree education, whether we use our ears or whether we use mathematics to determine what we hear, no one is immune to attack. It seems apparent that we're all susceptible to some strain of Placebo infection - especially with Spring just around the corner.

Please take URGENT HEED!

Robert
RSAD

Ridgestreetaudio  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


04-10-09   The paint-by-numbers is a great illustration, robert (pun no ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Let me ask you a question, since you're convinced that they ...   Naschbac

04-11-09   we are not talking about a word file. it does not have to ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Timing information? you pull down the audio from a cd into ...   Naschbac

04-11-09   Naschbac, what you say makes a lot of sense. as long as the ...   Shadorne

04-11-09   i believe that in reality i can do so. mathematics or comp ...   Jax2

04-11-09   it is probably related to software bugs. if the algorithms ...   Shadorne

04-11-09   It very well could be, shadorne. i don't know...i can only ...   Jax2

04-11-09   and i don't doubt you. here is a manufacturer's explanatio ...   Shadorne

04-11-09   Shadorne - here's a further, long thread on head-fi that ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Hey naschbac. my personal results and conclusions came from ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-11-09   Hey robert - i've done similar comparisons, but with wav fil ...   Jax2

04-11-09   Hey marco. would really like to explore something different ...   Ridgestreetaudio

04-12-09   Hi robert - i think there are some flac conversion software ...   Jax2

04-12-09   Just wanted to jump in and thank the posters here for one of ...   Sbank

04-12-09   Hey spencer - thanks for the vote of confidence. i'm sure t ...   Jax2

04-13-09   Some utilities which may be of interest to mac users: xld a ...   Humanmedia

04-13-09   Marco, yeah, i got to hear a friends' modwright transporter ...   Sbank

04-13-09   spender - yes, it really is a damn fine digital front end ( ...   Jax2

04-26-11   Sorry to dig up this old thread, but i was looking for infor ...   Grandpixel

04-29-11   I have done blind testing with aac lossy at 256k and apple l ...   Grege

04-29-11   Grege, i have done the same. 256 kbps with a good compressi ...   Shadorne

04-29-11   Grege, shadorne - my experience has been the same. while i'm ...   Sfar

05-01-11   Reading all this gives me a headache. i've been thinking abo ...   Wildoats

05-01-11   Computer audio is a headache and one you need not suffer. yo ...   Nglazer

05-02-11   Wildouts - you need not get a headache with computer audio. ...   Grege

05-02-11   Update: i'm using xld - aiff. i recently decided to start u ...   Sakahara


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