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  APL NWO2.5 ?
Though I'm not able to hear this player, I'm about to take the plunge......
Is it as good as some audiophiles claim ?
Peterb  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-05-06
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11-29-06   Is the apl nwo2.5 setup for multi channel?   Goatwuss

11-29-06   I am afraid multichannel is not available on the nwo 2.5 due ...   Brainwater

11-29-06   ackmann00, i have alex's 3910 with burr-brown dac's(circa ...   Mmakshak

11-29-06   tvad, you've got to take it easy, or everyone is going to ...   Mmakshak

11-29-06   Mmakshak - i have had the apl3910 for about two weeks now. i ...   Ackman00

11-29-06   I have owned the 3910 with crystal dacs , the 3910 fully ...   Brainwater

11-30-06   I also owned an apl denon 3910 with crystal dacs and then wi ...   Tvad

11-30-06   Tvad , you owned version akm # 5 and we are up to revisio ...   Brainwater

11-30-06   No problem brainwater. you offered your perspective and i of ...   Tvad

12-01-06   "14" revisions in one player means either the mo ...   Aolmrd1241

12-01-06   I believe the revisions #2-#14 are on the akm dacs from the ...   Tvad

12-01-06   every apl dac board has the version printed on it. the desi ...   Brainwater

12-01-06   tavd, thanks for the heads-up...   Aolmrd1241

12-01-06   aolmrd1241, we are talking about printed circuit board ver ...   Brainwater

12-02-06   oh my goodness! i understand from my reading that the akm ...   Mmakshak

12-02-06   Mmakshak: having had both the crystal dacs and the akm dac's ...   Fplanner2000

12-05-06   With all this discussion of the number of different versions ...   Petewatt

12-06-06   All i know is that i have owned over 50 high end digital pla ...   711smilin

12-07-06   Yeah, heard that from you before smilin!!! when you are re ...   Jmpwme

12-07-06   :)   Tvad

12-09-06   Time will tell, my friends, time will tell. i know of nobod ...   711smilin

12-09-06   Hi steve- appeared to me, my friend, hat jmpwme's post was i ...   Swampwalker

12-09-06   Swampwalker, i get it, i am just chillin with the music!!! ...   711smilin

12-10-06   Patience is tough, but hang in there; santa, i mean alex, is ...   Swampwalker

12-10-06   I have a real good feeling it will be a new years baby.   711smilin

12-10-06   It didnt make sense to start a new apl thread because i thou ...   Fjn04

12-10-06   apl denon 3910 with balanced output option. last i knew this ...   Tvad

12-10-06   Fjn04, there is no difference between rca and xlr with apl p ...   Aplhifi

12-11-06   Following up on a thread titled 'reference dacs', how would ...   No_slouch

12-11-06   i don't own the player, but i've heard it on three occasions ...   Boa2

12-14-06   Smilin, yes i did get my nwo-2.5 recently. but shortly befor ...   Puremusic

12-15-06   as an aside, does anyone know how to improve cd's that hav ...   Mmakshak

12-15-06   Check out the impressive measurements for the apl nwo-2.5 th ...   Puremusic

12-17-06: Earflappin
I just got my NWO 2.5 on Friday. Right out of the cold box it sounded wicked good. I first connected it to my pre-amp and said wow, this sounds really impressive. Then I connected it directly to my darTZeel amp. My jaw hit the floor. Once you take this step there is NO going back. Everything is better going direct to the amp, in a big, big way. Fortunately for me I don't have other sources to worry about.

I bought this unit without hearing it. I now have only 30 hours on my 2.5 and it not only lives up to all of the raves on this and the APL Hi-Fi forum....it exceeds it by a wide margin. This is the real deal. This is the "Digital Neo" we audiophiles have been waiting for.

First, you simply cannot believe how good RBCD sounds on this unit. Who would have thought it possible. DVD-A takes digital playback to a strata that I'm not sure even the best turntables can better. And even if they can, the margin will likely be very small indeed and they will have to be optimally set-up, vinyl cleaned and without scratches, etc. Note (!), this is only conjecture on my point as I have not yet had the chance to put the 2.5 up against SOTA vinyl yet, but I do know that a poster on the APL Forum has made this comparison against a $65K vinyl rig and the 2.5 came out victorious. I must admit when I first read his post I rolled my eyes...not anymore I can tell you.

I am observing a steady improvement in resolution, extension and micro detail as the unit burns in and I've been told that at 100 hours the 2.5 shifts to another gear...I simply can't wait for that to occur.

The way Alex P (the designer, resident genius, nice guy and passionate audiophile behind the NWO 2.5) has integrated control of the volume, digital filtering and S/PDIF digital input is clean and very clever.

I cannot more highly recommend this unit and will post a more substantive review after I get more hours on it. From a full disclosure stand point I have no commercial associations or interest whatsoever in APL Hi-Fi. I'm just an ecstatic customer.

Earflappin  (Reviews | Answers | This Thread)


12-18-06   Great post earflappin! just curious, are you using the dartz ...   Fsarc

12-18-06: Earflappin
Thanks Frank! I am currently bypassing the darTZeel pre-amp as the NWO 2.5 has a built in volume control, although I will go back and verify my initial findings by reconnecting to the darTZeel pre-amp.

I spec'ed my NWO 2.5 with RCA outputs, although the way the output stage is designed there shouldn't be a XLR vs RCA performance difference. As you know, the dart gear is RCA-centric so that's why I went that way.

I was thinking the same thing about the shoot out! BTW, what power cords and interconnect cables are you using and do you have a set of RCA's or are you going XLR from the CDSA SE into the dart pre?

David

Earflappin  (Reviews | Answers | This Thread)


12-23-06: Earflappin
I now have just over 100 hours of burn in time on my new NWO 2.5 and thought I would post a quick update.

The improvements have been gradual, continuous and significant. The sound has become increasingly fluid and detailed. Subtle ambient cues and microdetails have emerged on recordings with which I am very familiar...almost spooky.

After 30 plus hours of listening, several aspects of the unit's performance have begun to standout that set the NWO 2.5 apart from any other source I have heard in my system or elsewhere (shows, dealers, friends' systems, etc.). Here they are in no particular order:

(1) The depth with which one can listen into the soundstage...you hear the faintest, slightest details; like a triangle being struck in the back of the orchestra after a very dynamic passage.

(2) No listening fatigue even on RBCD. After listening to the NWO 2.5 you understand how many artifacts lesser players introduce into the music in terms of veils, time smearing, etc.

(3) Linearity across the entire spectrum...no portion of the spectrum sounds like is being over or under emphasized. I think this is one of the reasons the unit is not fatiguing to listen to.

(4) Low end and high end resolution and extension is amazing. I am hearing fast, tight low bass information on recordings where I never realized it existed as well as extended highs.

(5) Ability to drive the amplifier directly with absolutely no issues.

(6) The way you just find yourself listening to the music and not listening to your system trying to analyze if everything is as it should be.

Bottom line, the NWO 2.5 just sounds like music. It certainly does not sound like any digital player I have ever heard.

That's it for now...gotta go wrap some presents or my wife may make my NWO 2.5 disappear...:-)

Earflappin  (Reviews | Answers | This Thread)


12-23-06   Earflappin, wow, i just saw your pre-amp up for sale, congra ...   711smilin

12-23-06: Earflappin
Steve, good to talk with you. Thanks again for your endorsement of Alex and his work. You did not lead me astray! Have a great holiday season yourself my friend and shoot me that info on your speakers and cables when you get a chance!

David

Earflappin  (Reviews | Answers | This Thread)


12-24-06   Thank you all for the nice words and continued support! the ...   Aplhifi

12-25-06   I have apl 3910, it is the best player i have ever had and h ...   Audiosu

12-27-06   i enjoy, what has been stated about the 2.5. can you guys ...   Mmakshak

12-27-06   Mak, if i recall correctly, a nwo-2.5 may cost approx $20k ...   Guidocorona

12-31-06   guidocorona, you know that i won't be spending that much. ...   Mmakshak

12-31-06   Do not worry mak, there is wonderful equipment at all price ...   Guidocorona

01-06-07   Hi guido , are you going to ces? i would love to have a drin ...   Brainwater

01-07-07   Hi brent, would love to fly to ces. unfortunately it doe ...   Guidocorona

01-07-07   Raincheck it is guido. for those of you who are not familia ...   Brainwater

01-07-07   Lol, brainwater. i may have to go to rmaf next year to see ...   Swampwalker

01-07-07   Swampwalker , light dimming not a prerequisite thus the ... ...   Brainwater


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