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  Reference DACS: An overall perspective
There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
Teajay  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

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03-24-07: Playntheblues
Ok Guys the new AA MK4 went into the system last night. The System....G R Research Alpha LS line array speakers, Dodd 120 el34 mono blocks, Dodd battery/tube pre, fully modded Squeeze box II by boulder, Tice 1850 watt power supply/conditioner, anti cables & inter connects, cheap digital cables (better cables). My old DAC was the Audio Logic 34 MXL. WOW, let me prepeat WOW. My system now rivals the best system I have ever put together and quite possibly the best system that I have heard! Please understand that this is all subjective and with my room and my ears. We all have hearing loss to some degree (depending of age and I’m 47 and have played in a blues band for years). I ran the Squeeze Box (SB) all night into the DAC so I have about 12 hours on it right now as I am typing. I can hear Jeff Golub (jazz guitarist) playing in the back ground, WOW! The bass is thunderous the treble is quite good but needs to settle in a bit. When played loud you can still hear a little digital effect.

My wife puts up with my Audio hobby because she knows it makes me happy but has never really taken an interest. She enjoys and loves good music but just never really got the whole audio thing. She sat down with me last night for a listen. Now when I get new gear I usually ask here to sit down and listen to a song, which she will do. I always ask her “doesn’t that sound better, can you hear the difference in the bass, here sit right in the middle and listen to the sound stage etc”. Her response is ALWAYS, “it sounds great but Guy (that’s me lol) but I can’t tell the difference it always sounds great”. WELL…….last night with the AA MK4 in we went through this process again. Chris (my wife) had a glass of wine and I had my favorite beverage and I proceeded to the music room with my wife in tow. Chris requested Michael Bublae’ (sorry for the spelling), about one minute into the song I began asking her the same ole questions. How does it sound, can you tell the difference, bass, voice etc. And her responses was a knee jerk, “it sounds great but I can’t tell the difference”. Well by the time the song was over she requested another and another and another song about one hour’s worth. Chris started asking my how much we had into the system and said it was absolutely the best she has heard. I wish you guys could have seen her face, it said it all. She was just floored but did not know how to put it into words.

The Accustic Art DAC has REAL promise. What did you guys experience during break in and at what time intervals?

Thanks and all the best, Guy

Playntheblues  (Answers | This Thread)


03-24-07   An after thought.......as good as the zanden is, it can only ...   Playntheblues

03-24-07   playntheblues, i bought my unit and it was already broken-i ...   Dev

07-19-07   Here are some news for this excellent thread: i auditioned ...   Branimir

07-19-07   Is the sampling rate higher than the last dac(aa)?   Tabl10s

07-19-07   To give something back to this wonderful thread, i've now ta ...   Osgorth

08-10-07   I just got the new accustic arts hybrid tube reference dac i ...   Teajay

08-24-07   I know this question is off topic but since i used to post t ...   Exlibris

10-27-07   Teajay am i correct that dac does not have a built in master ...   Hamburg

10-29-07   Hi richard, you are correct the aa tube hybrid does not have ...   Teajay

10-31-07   There is some interesting reading on arthur salvatore site r ...   Elberoth2

11-01-07   Elberoth2, yes i would agree that arthur offers some interes ...   Dev

11-02-07   Dev - can you elaborate more about the sonics of aa gear, es ...   Elberoth2

11-02-07   Dev, you said "regarding the accustic arts tube dac, al ...   Ptmconsulting

11-02-07   Article that elberoth2 mentioned by arthur salvatore is pure ...   Branimir

11-02-07   Brian what would've been your list of cdp's?   Tabl10s

11-02-07   Hi elberoth2 if you look threw my threads you will find your ...   Dev

11-03-07   article that elberoth2 mentioned by arthur salvatore is pure ...   Audiofeil

11-03-07   The author's revised version comes to such different conclus ...   Drubin

11-03-07   I have just read the "revised version". funny as h ...   Elberoth2

11-12-07   Thanks teajay for recommending the accustic arts tube dac. i ...   Hamburg

11-12-07   Your more then welcome hamburg. it's been a pleasure to talk ...   Teajay

11-13-07   I would like to know which brand powercords are best match w ...   Ben

11-13-07   Ben, i have tied three different cords with my accustic arts ...   Teajay

11-13-07   Hi teejay, thanks for all the info on the aa. if you're fam ...   Analogkid

11-14-07   Hi, analogkid, i'll answer your questions in the order you a ...   Teajay

11-14-07   Thanks teejay. if i had to be in one camp i always would ch ...   Analogkid

11-14-07   Teajay thanks for your input, i like harmonix powercord too ...   Ben

12-10-07   Preffered settings for the p03-d03? can someone please help ...   Ugamotz

12-10-07   Marti, have you consider just experimenting and finding out ...   Guidocorona

12-16-07   Has anyone tried chord's dac 64? if one is using the dac ...   Henryhk

01-07-08   I had the pleasure of being asked to bring my accustic arts ...   Teajay

01-08-08   Teajay, i am currently enjoying aa tube-dac ii/drive i mk2 ...   Branimir

01-08-08   Brainmir,,,,have u tried the estoeric d-05? i beleive its n ...   Henryhk

01-08-08   Henry, esoteric d-05 is excellent dac but, you will get mos ...   Branimir

01-08-08   Thanks...i suspected the esoteric was really designed with i ...   Henryhk

01-09-08   Branimir, thanks for responding to my e-mail concerning your ...   Teajay

01-09-08   You might consider the new wadia 581i se with it digital inp ...   Psacanli

01-09-08   I have listened esoteric combo in my friend system many time ...   Ben

01-09-08   Teajay, i am not in tube-rolling... aa tube-dac ii was desig ...   Branimir

01-09-08   Teajay, i know very well shuguang 12ax7 tubes (i am still us ...   Ben

01-09-08   Branimir, i thank you for your detailed comparison aa and e ...   Ben

01-09-08   Ben, first about violin, itzhak perlman stradivari sounded m ...   Branimir

01-09-08   Branimir, thanks a lot for your test report,though i have aa ...   Ben

01-10-08   I think the overall perspective today was given to me by the ...   Psacanli

01-10-08   Branimir, good to see that you got the new aa tube dac and ...   Dev

01-10-08   Branimir what digital cable did you used in those comparison ...   Kops

01-10-08   Kops, yes, i used varidig sextet. i tried something else(ca ...   Branimir

01-11-08   Now i'd like to ask this seriously...... in case you just ne ...   Kops

01-11-08   George, it is a good question indeed i will be happy to lear ...   Ben


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