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  Reference DACS: An overall perspective
There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
Teajay  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-15-05
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09-15-05   Sorry, to anyone reading this thread, i forgot to mention th ...   Teajay

09-15-05   Thanks for this. i especially appreciate your effort to gro ...   Drubin

09-15-05   Hi teajay, none of the so called reference dacs is bad actua ...   Dazzdax

09-15-05   For me, it's the mbl 1611e that does the magic. it transcend ...   Yr44

09-15-05   Teajay's catagories are pretty much true with all cd players ...   jay_douglas_287@

09-15-05   I will put my audio logic 24mxl into your #2 group, but with ...   Sutts

09-15-05   One more piece of information that might be helpful to know ...   Teajay

09-15-05   I have the manley ref dac from the late 90's and this fits r ...   Jafox

09-15-05   Teajay, thanks for the impressions and sharing your experi ...   Robm321

09-15-05   Good post, teajay. personally, i don't think you can lose wi ...   Hooper

09-15-05   Hi robm, yeah, i'm aware of that, too. :) i've heard dcs' 3 ...   Yr44

09-15-05   Yr44: i was at kadewe in 2002 and that was quite an experien ...   Jafox

09-15-05   We need names for categories 1 and 2. like hp's yin and yan ...   Drubin

09-15-05   Yr44, you mean you didn't buy all the $25k to $33k dacs to ...   Robm321

09-16-05   Teajay, how did the transports play into the comparisons? ...   Siddh

09-16-05   Hi jafox, last time i was there was also 2002. if memory se ...   Yr44

09-16-05   Great question steve, i'll be brief but hopefully informativ ...   Teajay

09-26-05   Teajay your essay in my opinion has set an industry standard ...   Audioezra

09-27-05   Generally agree with the categories. another key parameter ...   Henryhk

09-27-05   Teajay, nice essay, and i have to say it agrees with my exp ...   Gliderguider

09-28-05   Audioezra, thank you for your kind words regarding my post. ...   Teajay

10-03-05   Teejay: i was not referring what was the best dac at all: bu ...   Henryhk

10-05-05   Henryhk, sorry if i misunderstood your statement/question, h ...   Teajay

10-05-05   Thanks....i was thinking perhaps getting a second player for ...   Henryhk

10-15-05   Teajay, excellent thread. your friend with the emm labs gea ...   Exlibris

10-15-05   Exlibris you haven't even begun to tap the potential of you ...   Oneobgyn

10-16-05   Exlibris, my friend's system is powered by lamm pre and mono ...   Teajay

10-16-05: Oneobgyn
Teajay

I agree with you completely

Unfortunately you missed the "IMO" at the beginning of my sentence. I have said repeatedly that there are many flavors. i then went on to say that "in my opinion" there is none better than the Meitner stack. I fail to see my error.

Oneobgyn  (System | Reviews | Answers | This Thread)


10-16-05   Great thread, teejay! i generally agree with your findings. ...   Branimir

10-16-05   Lamm and a cdsd, and still the cdsd gets the hook?! that's ...   Exlibris

10-18-05   I'm wondering where theta's genviii fits into the groupings ...   Sammie

10-20-05   Although it may not fall into the same class of players disc ...   Jaffeassc

10-21-05   Teejay just saw this post. it is very interesting and i tend ...   Kops

10-24-05   Hi all, very interesting, and surprisingly gentlemanly di ...   Deshapiro

10-25-05   Hello, this weekend i had a chance to audition esoteric d-0 ...   Branimir

10-25-05   Branimir, i would have to sadly agree with you on the future ...   Mikesinger

10-26-05   Branimir - did you purchase the weiss or were you just audit ...   Jazzdude

10-27-05   Jazzdude-i have weiss medea/jason for almost 6 months now. t ...   Branimir

10-27-05   I was wondering where levinson digital would fit in with all ...   Sgr

10-28-05   Sgr, i used to have a ml31.5,360s,and dcs purcell in my syst ...   Teajay

10-28-05   Branimir - i got the best sound with the weiss in my system ...   Jazzdude

10-28-05   I wonder why the dodson 218 is not included in this illustri ...   Nglazer

10-28-05   Jazzdude-error in my response, in my system sound is also be ...   Branimir

10-28-05   Hi, branimir, thanks for sharing your experience with your w ...   Teajay

10-28-05   Teejay-thanks for info about accustic arts dac1 mk3, my frie ...   Branimir

10-28-05   Teejay, thanks for the info. i see there is a dcs purcell un ...   Sgr

10-29-05   Branimir, i don't know if you read a review i posted about w ...   Teajay

10-29-05   Sgr, before i finally replaced my ml360s, i had added the dc ...   Teajay

10-29-05   Good news for all cec tl-0 fans, cec just introduced tl-0x! ...   Branimir

10-30-05   Thank you tj for this excellent thread. not having had the ...   Guidocorona


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