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  Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?
Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
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11-06-04
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02-02-05   I was also considering a dv-50s due to all the great reviews ...   Arnold_h

02-02-05   For anyone that can't do the shootout and is willing to trav ...   Saxman2

02-02-05   Arnold_h, the s version of the dv-50 has some video upgrades ...   Aplhifi

02-02-05   Meitner: a word of caution. i believe avguru et al already ...   Henryhk

02-03-05   Henryhk, dac6e and dcc2 are converting to dsd even the pcm f ...   Aplhifi

02-03-05   My understanding was that the superclock 3 has a greater eff ...   Tgun5

02-03-05   Will there be an emm dcc2/cdsd at the shoot-out? i only read ...   Springbok10

02-03-05   Very much doubt it sprinbok 10: the only diff would really b ...   Henryhk

02-03-05   Tgun5, there are two master clocks for the upsampling in dv- ...   Aplhifi

02-03-05: Aplhifi
Springbok10, it was mentioned earlier that they will bring DAC6e (note the "e"). It is the new $12K updated version of DAC6 and is exactly the same as DCC2 less the built in preamp in the DCC2.

Regards,
Alex

Aplhifi  (System | Answers | This Thread)


02-03-05   To further carify - the dcc2 only decodes 2 channel dsd, the ...   Lazarus28

02-03-05   Tgun5, according to the x-01 review published in july 2004 ...   Guidocorona

02-03-05   Guidocorona, the report you point to does say the fir circui ...   Tgun5

02-03-05   Aplhifi, thanks for the clarification. i was aware of the po ...   Tgun5

02-03-05   "saxman2", how close is cedar falls to cedar rapid ...   Nealhood

02-03-05   Answer to neal, 45 minutes nw of cedar rapids.   Saxman2

02-04-05   Arnold_h, the esoteric dv-50 is excellent but there's certa ...   Fmtien

02-04-05   Any thoughts to not letting the listeners know which player ...   Krisgel

02-04-05   I am sure that you have previous experience of comparing dig ...   Aplhifi

02-04-05   I suggest a niles switchbox to which you can hook up many co ...   Abrahavt

02-04-05   I have a switchbox i can bring, but, it does degrade the sou ...   711smilin

02-04-05   Hi 711, i sent you the directions a little while ago. don't ...   Essentialaudio

02-05-05   Tgun5, you may be right. i have reread the paragraph in que ...   Guidocorona

02-05-05   Well, the gang just left. jayctoy, 711smilin, tgun5 and a co ...   Essentialaudio

02-06-05   I think that this shoot-out at brians just goes to show that ...   Daltonlanny

02-06-05   I’d like to thank brian again for hosting this event. i thin ...   Tgun5

02-06-05   So, c'mon guys...why so politically correct? this was label ...   Tvad

02-06-05   In response to tvad: fair question. here is how i scored ...   Ehfm

02-06-05   I agree with tvad, we have been waiting for quite a while f ...   Audiojoy4

02-06-05   Eric, thanks for your candor! that's exactly what we're lo ...   Tvad

02-06-05   My specific ratings were dv50 (48) modright (47) apl (47). s ...   Tgun5

02-06-05   Gee, tom, did i say that? i was sitting way off to the side, ...   Essentialaudio

02-06-05   By the way, my nils lofgren cd seems to be missing :-( pleas ...   Essentialaudio

02-07-05   That nils lofgren cd sounded great. but i didn't walk off wi ...   Ehfm

02-07-05   I wasn't accusing anyone and apologize if it sounded that wa ...   Essentialaudio

02-07-05   I haven't visited here in a long time but i must say, i've b ...   Bornie

02-07-05   Well 711 smilin, we are waiting for your response to the sho ...   Audio_girl

02-07-05   Ok time to lighten up! let talk music first! i want everyone ...   Musicfirst

02-07-05   C'mon, audio girl, you are rehashing issues that have been r ...   Jwells

02-07-05   Yes, please, can we get a list of the music that was used in ...   Islandear

02-07-05   Bornie, and your integrated is?   Phil_l

02-07-05   Brians missing cd was one of the outstanding recordings ther ...   Tgun5

02-07-05   In defense of 711...as far as meeting him for the first time ...   Tgun5

02-07-05   Wow, after reading these last few posts, i myself, have los ...   Daltonlanny

02-07-05   I would like to make a couple comments about what has been s ...   Alpha3

02-07-05   Audio_girl, speaking of uncalled for remarks, you might take ...   Essentialaudio

02-07-05   Can the participants break down their scores? please list t ...   Tlday

02-08-05   Categories: units: apl 3910 dv-50 modwright ...   Ehfm

02-08-05   Daltonlanny, you're absolutely correct! at this level of pe ...   Fmtien

02-08-05   I have started many messages that i was intending to post, b ...   Aplhifi


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