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  Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?
Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
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11-06-04
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12-16-04   Guidocorona, dv-50 is op amp phase splitter. not sure about ...   Aplhifi

12-16-04   Springbok10, that's why soon i will have the balanced out op ...   Aplhifi

12-17-04   Thanks again alex about the dv50 info. if anyone has info a ...   Guidocorona

12-17-04   Avguru, you are correct.i misread your post.lew at cj says ...   Aldavis

12-18-04   Aldavis, no disrepect was intended on my part either. we'r ...   Avguru

12-18-04   Hey avguru, jayctoy, anything happening this weekend? haven ...   1markr

12-18-04   Mark, brian postponed the shootout, he is busy.but whenever ...   Jayctoy

12-19-04   Guys, sorry i had to postpone the shootout, but let's get to ...   Essentialaudio

12-19-04   Brian, tomorrow jactoy, 1markr and i are having a mini-shoo ...   Avguru

12-20-04   Guys, i am finally ready with the dv-50. i am posting this i ...   Aplhifi

12-20-04   Alex, this thread is becoming hotter than you knowhat! tim ...   Guidocorona

12-20-04   Gee...thanks alex :-)! something to shoot for down the road ...   Dbld

12-20-04   Guidocorona, yes, 711 smilin will eventually have a demo uni ...   Aplhifi

12-20-04   Dbld, sure, just let me know when you're ready. the mod af ...   Aplhifi

12-20-04   Thank you alex, but why ux-3 instead of the slightly cheape ...   Guidocorona

12-20-04   I would first and foremost like to thank steve (711smilin') ...   Jose21

12-21-04   I think it's time for apl to change his business model. taki ...   Reb1208

12-21-04   Reb1208: and of course the hypothetical chinese contractor ...   Guidocorona

12-21-04   Guidocorona, i thought the x-03 is just sacd/cd player, no d ...   Aplhifi

12-21-04   Good point alex, i understand now your choice for ux-3. wi ...   Guidocorona

12-21-04   Reb 1208, your point is well taken about spending $5,500 fo ...   Avguru

12-21-04   Reb1208, my apologies for my previous attempt at humor. no ...   Guidocorona

12-21-04   Avguru, the currently offered mod for dv-50 is all solid sta ...   Aplhifi

12-22-04   One of the main reasons i sold my dv-50 was due to the bass. ...   Reb1208

12-22-04   Reb1208, i listened to the stock dv-50 very shortly as it wa ...   Aplhifi

12-22-04: Reb1208
Alex, I think you are a really talented technician. With excellent hearing skills. Like many of us, I am very frustrated deciding on a source component. And, at this "mature" stage in my audiophile life, I have burned way too much cash. No longer can I spend 5K or more on a machine. I wish that you could find some way to bring the price down on your player. Surely there must be away to souce the Dennon DSP/transport. Then put that into a more economical box.
Regards
Bob

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12-22-04   alex, i am inclined to agree with bob on this one. in readi ...   La45

12-22-04   La45 and all, dan wright at modwright produces a modified so ...   Guidocorona

12-22-04   Guidocorona, i have great respect for dan wright. as for the ...   La45

12-22-04   Guidocorona, this is a very good point! i am plannig to have ...   Aplhifi

12-22-04   Alex, reb 1208 and i have extensive experience with the dv ...   Avguru

12-22-04   Avguru, you have heard the exemplar 3910, not the 2900. btw ...   711smilin

12-23-04   Esoteric ux1 review to all: i've had the pleasure of dem ...   Avguru

12-23-04   711, didn't know you were back in town. good to see you ba ...   Avguru

12-23-04   Fab review avguru! just from memory, do you have a feel on ...   Guidocorona

12-23-04   Avguru, the ux1 audio is the same as the upcoming ux3 and ...   Aldavis

12-23-04   Aldavis, i suspect you may be correct about x-01. by the w ...   Guidocorona

12-23-04   Aldavis, thanks for your response. i wish i could say for s ...   Avguru

12-23-04   Avguru, one thing to consider is a tube preamp. i use a c.j. ...   Aldavis

12-24-04   Guido, from what alex and jack have told me about the apl dv ...   Dbld

12-24-04   Can one of you gurus summarize for me, now, after all these ...   Springbok10

12-24-04   Avguru, sorry for the delay! i am so busy, my bed time moved ...   Aplhifi

12-24-04   Springbok, i share your exhaustion with this list. i think a ...   Tbg

12-24-04   Tbg i totally agree.   Jayctoy

12-24-04   Springbock10, yours is the $64b question. moded units are n ...   Guidocorona

12-24-04   Tbg, i mean no multichannel, and, having a preamp-amp system ...   Springbok10

12-24-04   Tbg, i would agree too if it comes to the classic volume con ...   Aplhifi

12-24-04   Alex, in the digital domain, do you not lose information wit ...   Tbg

12-24-04   Springbok, i think your aversion to having a mc unit but usi ...   Tbg

12-24-04   Springbock10: the emm dac/pre was optimized to work with th ...   Guidocorona


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