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  Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?
Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
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11-06-04
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12-10-04   Guys, please let me know what the story is. i will be in to ...   711smilin

12-10-04   Smoke an other one ...   bob47@

12-10-04   Bob. first thread answered on audiogon and that's what you ...   Tvad

12-11-04   Bob47, get off of our thread! you have nothing positive to ...   Avguru

12-11-04   Phil1, i just received my apl back earlier today. i notice ...   711smilin

12-11-04   Question about the bass performance of the apl 3910. i did n ...   Reb1208

12-11-04   Nobody has mentioned that the apl 3910 is a single-ended des ...   Springbok10

12-11-04   Exemplar does not have balanced outputs.   Tvad

12-11-04   Springbok10. i mentioned above that the apl is a single ende ...   Frankg

12-11-04   Springbok10, my answer is yes. i would much prefer to work ...   Guidocorona

12-11-04   Reb1208 man, that is a great question. bass is probably th ...   711smilin

12-11-04   Thanks. i wish that the apl was available for in home auditi ...   Reb1208

12-11-04   Reb1208, i am gonna ship my apl 1000 back to alex on monday. ...   711smilin

12-12-04   711 smilin seems to be on apl's payroll.   Jes45

12-12-04   Jes45, you need to get a life, i have bought, paid for used ...   711smilin

12-12-04   I really don't believe there is any reason to doubt 711 smli ...   Springbok10

12-12-04   I'm afraid i'm going to have to cancel the get together at m ...   Essentialaudio

12-13-04   Alex now offers balanced output (see the updated website). ...   Phil_l

12-14-04   Went to alex's web site. i confirm the option for the maste ...   Guidocorona

12-14-04   Guidocorona. don't know why but going to apl website through ...   Frankg

12-14-04   Thank you frank, i did open the page from the address bar a ...   Guidocorona

12-14-04   Frankg dude check your email i sent you a message like over ...   Mejames

12-14-04   Speaking of alex, is he generally pretty responsive? i've w ...   Boa2

12-14-04   Boa2, what can i say, i am really busy. my usual bedtime is ...   Aplhifi

12-14-04   I ordered a 3910 from alex about 3 weeks ago. been patiently ...   Jose21

12-14-04   Btw, i can't find anything about the balanced output upgrade ...   Jose21

12-15-04   The balanced output paragraph can be found by opening: http: ...   Guidocorona

12-15-04: Boa2
Alex,
What can I say? I'm pretty busy as well. The next time you want to save face, however, you could just respond directly to my e-mails, which you still have not done.
I know, everyone does business in his/her own way. I'm just a stickler when it comes to customer service. Everyone is exceptionally good at selling it, and very few actually deliver. Thank you, but I won't be by on Thursday.
Best of luck, truly. It's refreshing to see so many people excited about your product.

Howard

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12-15-04   Excuse me for sullying the tone of this excellent thread. i ...   Boa2

12-15-04   Bosa2, just a gentle reminder. agoners and industry folks ...   Guidocorona

12-15-04   Guidocorona, first off let me say that there is no such thin ...   Aplhifi

12-15-04   Thanks guidocorona, i look forward to hearing the apl playe ...   Boa2

12-15-04   Alex, what happened to your web site? i was going to e-mai ...   Boa2

12-15-04   thanks alex for the explanation. will your 'balanced' desi ...   Guidocorona

12-15-04   It is interesting to hear alex's thoughts on balanced vs. si ...   Dbld

12-15-04   Guidocorona, i agree with you and whatever i wrote before wa ...   Aplhifi

12-15-04   Does the denon 3910 take forever and a day like the sony scd ...   Mejames

12-15-04   Dbld, i am happy to hear that others share my view regarding ...   Aplhifi

12-15-04   Alex, two questions: 1. ignoring obvious cost increase con ...   Guidocorona

12-15-04   Alex, i could care less what people say in terms of balance ...   Avguru

12-15-04   Ok guys, i uderstand and agree with all of you. this is the ...   Aplhifi

12-15-04   I could never listen thru a single ended pre-amp. single end ...   Reb1208

12-15-04   Thanks alex, but. . . what about my original questions: que ...   Guidocorona

12-15-04   Oops, i just realized that my 3rd question may be misinterp ...   Guidocorona

12-16-04   Guidocorona, as i mentioned, there is no "true balanced ...   Aplhifi

12-16-04   Thank you alex for elaborating on your design philosophy. g ...   Guidocorona

12-16-04   Avguru, the conrad johnson act 2 and art are single ended ...   Aldavis

12-16-04   Aldavis, you did not read my post very carefully. i specif ...   Avguru

12-16-04   I agree with avguru. i too have tried a dv-50, ml 32, krell ...   Springbok10

12-16-04   Avguru, alex and all: how is the balanced output circuitry ...   Guidocorona


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