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  BMG CD's ARE worse
I have seen this question somewhere before so when I got Rush's "2112" on both BMG and not I compared the two.

Both CD's say "Anthem Records", "Mercury" and "Polygram" but the BMG version says "This compilation @1990 PolyGram" "mfd. for BMG Direct, 6550 East 30th St., Induanapolis, IN 46219" and the non-BMG CD just says 1976 Mercury Records.

The BMG version sounded much less dynamic. The sound was compressed and flat. To prove my ears were not imagining things I looked at the playback level meter on my CDR-500 and the non-BMG version was showing higher peaks. The BMG version was showing a virtually constant playback level on the same part of the opening track.

Note this is not just a recording at a lower playback level but the actual dynamic peaks are showing to be less on the BMG disc. BMG is cheaper, looks like you get what you pay for.
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07-25-02
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07-25-02   Depends, the other cd may be remastered.   Rwwear

07-25-02   I have not purchased from bmg or columbia for some time now. ...   Johnj

07-25-02   I believe cdc. i don't bmg, never have, never will - but i ...   Mwilson

07-25-02   You guys may find this interesting: http://www.stereophile. ...   Killerpiglet

07-25-02   I agree that the club cd may been a poor remaster (because o ...   Sugarbrie

07-25-02   Many years ago i had two copies of dire straits' brothers in ...   Karls

07-25-02   Thanks, sugarbrie, for your input. i've never heard any dif ...   Travis

07-25-02   I don't hear a difference between the retail and bmg discs i ...   Turnaround

07-26-02: Cdc
The BMG version was 2112 in Rush's "Chronicles" (a 2 CD set) and apparently was compiled in 1990. No mention of remastering so I thought they were using the original master tapes.
The other version is the actual "2112" CD. It was not manufactured for BMG and looks to be mastered in 1976 by Mercury.
As I mentioned, the differences are not imagined. My CDR-500 display shows the compression I was hearing.
Buyer beware I guess.

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07-26-02   This is for everyone. i used to be in the music business and ...   Pictura

07-26-02   Cdc...from your last post, it sounds like it is a re-mix of ...   Sugarbrie

07-26-02   They have a manufacturing rights and their pressing quality ...   Marakanetz

07-26-02   Hi cdc... any album had to be remastered before it was put ...   Phild

07-26-02   Cdc your info about the non bmg disc is confusing-1976 is th ...   Ben_campbell

07-26-02   Pictura, how can you determine where your cd was "press ...   Brianmgrarcom

07-26-02   One more thing: whenever i bid on any ebay cd i make sure to ...   Marakanetz

07-26-02: Cdc
The Rush CD was just called "2112" which you cn buy in any store. The BMG version "Chronicles" only has the first and second part of "2112". So the discs aren't identical and that would better define if it's really BMG's fault or not.
I did not think a compilation CD would be remastered but this one did say "Manufactured for BMG". That statement bothered me. Perhaps "remastered for BMG" would be more like it?

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07-26-02   Cdc, your bmg version is a different version than the store- ...   Turnaround

07-26-02   Marakanetz, it seems to be important to you to pay more for ...   Travis

07-27-02   Hello brianmgrarcom! it is indicated on the back of the cds ...   Pictura

07-27-02   As i mentioned earlier, the cd in question may have been com ...   Rwwear

07-28-02: Cdc
Thanks for the information. I will be comparing BMG CD's to the same "non BMG" CD's in the future for a fairer comparison. If I find quality differences again, I'll repost.
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07-29-02   Go purchase 2 copies of any cd somewhere now go a/b the 2 &q ...   Mejames

07-29-02   If the discs are from the same final digital master, they wi ...   Sugarbrie

08-30-02: Cdc
I finally got two identical CD's, one is BMG version, brand new right out of the case; of Steve Winwood's "Arc of a Diver". The other is from the library.
The library CD had minor scratches all over it. It also had two thin metal detection strips taped to the back of it. So I would expect the library CD to sound worse.
First I put the BMG in my Marantz CDR-500 CDR (better) drive and the LIB (library version) in the CD drive.
The BMG version sounded "better" by quite a noticeable amount. I put in quotes because the clarity seemed to accentuate the "digital nasties".
- Listening the BMG was subjectively louder but the output level meters on the CDP showed identical output levels.
- BMG was clearer and more dynamic. This is probably why it accentuated the "digital nasties".

Switched BMG to CD drive and LIB version to CDR drive. Same results but perhaps BMG was TINY bit worse than the first time due to worse quality CD drive.

Put Auric Illuminator on BMG CD and digital nasties reduced by 10%. I'm calling the difference between the two CD's was 100% so A-I reduced the difference by 10%.

After 20-30 minutes of this my ears got fatigued and I couldn't really hear differences anymore.

My conclusion - compilation CD's not BMG CD's are worse.

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08-31-02   An example: the heart greatest hits cd is remastered but the ...   Turnaround

09-01-02   Be careful when generalizing the superiority of japanese cd' ...   Jim

09-01-02   I agree that bmg's cd's are inferior to regular house brand ...   lawrencegrac@

09-01-02   Good grief. i give up on this board.   Turnaround

09-01-02   Yeah,lawrencegrac, why do a real comparison of say, 10 compa ...   Travis

09-02-02   I'll keep the sucker and watch out for the jinx of bmg cd's! ...   lawrencegrac@


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