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  Ohm Walsh 2000 vs MMG vs Vandersteen 2ce Sig?
Ohm Walsh 2000 versus Magneplanar MMG versus Vandersteen 2ce Signature II? How does they compare with respect to speed, dynamics, tonality, texture, detail, tranparency, extension and sound stage?
Pmboyd  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

06-25-11
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06-25-11   I've owned magnepan mmg's and 1.5's as well as, vandersteen ...   Ecruz

06-25-11   Ha! pays to proofread. i listened to the 2ce sig iis today a ...   Pmboyd

06-26-11   Mmg if you have the right room,ohm if you don't. hint,most p ...   Schubert

06-27-11   Pmboyd, this might get a little wordy, i have lived with mmg ...   Frazeur1

06-28-11: Martykl
Peter,

Good that you got a chance to check out the Vandy. I suspected that they'd satisfy your requirements for a "gentler" treble, per your last post, but evidently they represent too much of a good thing for your needs. Your reaction to the Vandy clarifies how you judge that particular sound. Incidentally, while many people (including me) like them a lot, I don't think you're alone in suggesting that the Vany leans that way on a relative basis. (I agree, but I have less issue with those qualities than you do - just my take on the specific design trade-offs.)

Given your response, I'd guess that the MMG might be your preference - provided you can get them to image to your satisfaction. As Schubert notes, that is highly room dependent.

I'm fairly confident that the Ohm will either please or displease on the basis of its spacial presentation. Relative to my VSM, I find the Ohm 100 audibly softer than Merlin on top, a bit "drier" thru the mids, and just a touch fuller below 100hz or so. I doubt you'd find this as obvious on first audition as the dramatic difference in spatial qualities between omnis and planars or dynamics.

I know that you were also thinking Merlin at one point, and my guess is that you'd find the Merlin strong in all the areas that you find the Vandy weak. That said, I can't speak to the octave to octave balance on the little Merlins, as I've only owned the floorstanders.

Good Luck,

Marty

Martykl  (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


07-22-11   Ohm makes great speakers but imho they are grossly overprice ...   Schubert

07-22-11   Really, schubert? based on what metric?   Pmboyd

07-22-11   I definitely don't think ohms are overpriced...   Zkzpb8

07-23-11   Obviously i can't say that the vandy's weren't set up right ...   Unsound

07-27-11   I'm a little confused, and i confess i'm not up on the lates ...   Frommerstop

07-27-11   Valuable observation, frommerstop! thanks for sharing your o ...   Pmboyd

07-28-11   I can comment on ohm series 3 (the last versions prior to cu ...   Mapman

07-28-11   My ohm 100s have about a full octave more bottom end than my ...   Martykl

07-28-11   Interesting to me that some experience limits in regards to ...   Mapman

07-28-11   Good response map, i would tend to pretty much agree with mo ...   Frazeur1

07-28-11   Fraz, yes, i think mmg and mwts is the best apples/apples c ...   Mapman

07-28-11   I remember my dad and i doing an old ohm vs bose shootout ye ...   Bjesien

07-28-11   "are these the same brands or have they come a long way ...   Mapman

07-29-11   Some people prefered the older ohm's with real walsh drivers ...   Unsound

07-29-11   Unfortunately, the earliest "pure" walsh designs ( ...   Frommerstop

07-29-11   Models "a" and "f" are the benchmark ohm ...   Audiofeil

07-29-11   Af, have you heard both properly refurbished fs say and lat ...   Mapman

07-29-11   I owned f for almost 10 years; sold them to purchase apogee ...   Audiofeil

07-29-11   Wow! thanks for that link, i was unaware of hhr. that's very ...   Frommerstop

07-29-11   I have owned both mmg and older vanderteen 2's. its a no bra ...   Fin1bxn

07-29-11   I don't know if you guys know this but, vandersteen speakers ...   Miketuason

08-05-11   Like mapman, i am an ohm fan, but i am a maggie fan too. i j ...   Armyscout41

08-09-11   Mmg $699 mmg 1.7 2k shouldn't you compare it to a like pric ...   Sthomas12321

08-09-11   Its true larger maggies are more comparable pricewise, but i ...   Mapman

08-09-11   Sthomas, i agree we should be comparing in the same price ra ...   Frazeur1

08-09-11   I really like the magnepans too. i remember i sold my paradi ...   Sthomas12321

08-10-11   I agree, and also the funds to have the dedicated room and t ...   Frazeur1

04-24-12   It has been awhile since i have trawled through some of the ...   Frazeur1

02-01-13   Mmg's are better than the other 2 and not by a little bit. t ...   Schubert

02-02-13   This is an interesting discussion thread. problem with the ...   Ladavid

02-02-13   Ladavid, well ohm's, ehich i've had, are sure plug and play, ...   Schubert

02-02-13   I had mg12's - loved them and one of my audio regrets sellin ...   Ladavid

02-02-13   I've owned mmg's and vandy 1c's and while they both have the ...   Polarin

02-05-13   Not so, mmg will put out good bass, you just need an amp tha ...   Schubert

02-06-13   "i will give you ohms are better on hard rock, but on r ...   Mapman

02-06-13   In general, i think ohms will hold the advantage over maggie ...   Mapman

02-06-13   Please define "real music" for me...   Polarin

02-06-13   "please define "real music" for me..." ...   Mapman

02-06-13   I guess mapman...   Polarin

02-06-13   Google search for "real music" comes up with: Real ...   Mapman

02-06-13   Mapman thanks i just went to real music https://www.realm ...   Audioconnection


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