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  Velodyne DD Plus: New King of the Jungle?
I've had the new Velodyne DD15 Plus now for about a week. I've had and heard plenty of subs, always looking for that magical moment where you are immersed in the music in its fullest range, uninterrupted by separation and unwanted resonances. Subs are difficult to judge; it depends on how well their sound can be blended with the system in use. And there's always that artificiality of tone the listener is fearing to detect, so my expectations were tamed as I set the thing up. My gear is simple, some of it is not the finest in the world but performs amazingly well for what it is, and I've heard lots.

I set it up on a stool about 8 inches off the floor, with plenty of padding to isolate it from the wooden floor(I'm funny about isolating stuff from wooden floors but it seems to sound better). It was placed diagonally, near a corner of the room. I put on some Diana Krall and roughed dialed it in. I have to say that right out of the box, not broken in and not EQ'd yet, the DD15 Plus and walls of my listening room just disappeared and left me with my jaw in my drink. I was in the concert hall with her. This sub just may be in a league of its own.

About an hour later, my wife came home. I was playing some Allman Brothers and upon walking in she exclaimed, "Something's different; did you get something new?" I was dumbfounded. Luckily it was covered up and in the same place the old one was so she didn't see it. "What Do you mean?" I mumbled. Later I confessed to her about the purchase. When asked about the sound, she said that when she walked in (45 feet from the sub), the whole house had "an atmosphere" to it and she thought "there was a live band in the living room". Now that's music to my ears!

Even as it was with the factory settings, it would have been good enough. But of course I ran the auto EQ with the microphone, video connection to my TV played the tone sweep CD it came with.

With one push of a button on the remote the DD15 plus began listening to and adjusting itself. Five minutes later it had analyzed my main speaker's low frequency output and matched their cutoff to its own, set its low level output and frequency responses to the contours of my room, set its crossover parameters, phase and parametric filters. The result was a very flat response line across the range on my TV screen. The crossover points were showing up as little dips, varying no more than -3db. It started rolling off gradually around 160db. I could have gone further with fine tuning the EQ manually but didn't need to.

Back to Diana Krall. Same effect only this time, the whole experience was smoother and more seamless. I realized its not only that the DD Plus gets completely out of the way, but it has a very organic and natural * tonality *; significantly more "real" IMHO than any other sub I've heard. I played some rock, blues, jazz and samba with the same effect. We have an extremely versatile sub here.

I'm using it for music in my stereo system so I don't need that much power. This is way overkill. However, I did play a DVD (Wall-E) on the surround system with it in place and again, it made the room disappear and put me right there in the action, everything not being lifted out but rather enhanced with detail I've never heard before. I felt like this sub could take me anywhere sonically. And the kicker is that the volume was at about 25% of its 3000 watt capacity.

I'm running Harbeth Super HL5's and they're extremely fast, detailed speakers with tons of naturalness. The DD15 Plus kept up and possibly exceeded them in velocity. For fun, I set the crossover on the sub to its highest point (200hz) and adjusted the volume. The instruments timbre and tonality were filled in with more detail and their stage presence more placed. Wow! This is one fast sub, full of natural tonality, detail and can put you right there in the musical event.

I can't wait until it breaks in -

I look forward to other fellow AG'ers who have far more experience, different gear, more brains and better ears than I do to give their opinions on this amazing piece.

Cheers,

Sonicray

Gear:
Odyssey Extreme SE monoblock amps
Odyssey Candela tube preamp with Mullard ecc82 long plates
Harbeth Super HL5 main speakers
Velodyne DD15 Plus sub
all IC's and cables custom made UP silver over OFC
custom 12 gauge pure copper wiring from meter
customized and treated listening room

Resources:
David Weinhart, Weinhart Design, LA
Klaus Bunge Odyssey Audio
Alan Shaw, Harbeth Loudspeakers, UK

All are IMO, among the very best in the business and phenomenal to deal with.

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02-14-11
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02-14-11   Wow, sounds like a great sub! i'm looking for a sub myself f ...   Telescope_trade

02-14-11   I was thinking that sub was $1500. it's actually out of my p ...   Telescope_trade

02-14-11   Do you think velodyne has shot themself in the foot? cause y ...   Lewhite

02-15-11   Sorry dude this sounds like a marketing pitch! i have owned ...   Audiofreakgeek

02-15-11   Wondering if you have also owned the ddplus? or your compair ...   Lewhite

02-15-11   Sonicray, if you get a chance it would be helpful to know th ...   Dgarretson

02-15-11   Audiofreekgeak, the dd15 is a great sub and my experience c ...   Grannyring

02-16-11   Dd15 velo. vs jl audio and earthquake subs could the diffe ...   Davehrab

02-16-11   Thanks for all the responses. after reading my comments aga ...   Sonicray

02-17-11   Even the dd15 - the original - is a great sub. very musical ...   Grannyring

02-17-11   Rel g1 - the best for music   Philb7777

02-17-11   Audiofreakgeek sells both earthquake and jl so take his comm ...   Audiofeil

02-17-11   Yes, rel is another amazing sub. are they still made in the ...   Sonicray

02-17-11   Have had the dd plus 15 (cherry) now for a few months, integ ...   Podeschi

02-17-11   Podeschi, your comment that "it creates much more dime ...   Sonicray

02-18-11   Audiofreekgeek sells jl subs? does the op sell velodyne? are ...   Lewhite

02-18-11   On the rel g1 box iraqis designed and manufactured in englan ...   Philb7777

02-18-11   02-18-11: lewhite audiofreekgeek sells jl subs? yup, but he ...   Audiofeil

02-18-11   Thanks for the info audiofeil! i cross mine at 50 htz with ...   Grannyring

02-18-11   Btw, i am not a retailer of anything and am not trying to pi ...   Sonicray

02-18-11   Sonicray, you have nothing to apologize for. however, the ...   Audiofeil

02-19-11   Its one thing for a manufacture or retailer to brag and beat ...   Lewhite

02-19-11   Lewhite: of course, the best way to find out would be to do ...   Sonicray

02-28-11   I've had a pair of dd10plus subs for about a month now and a ...   Dirtbag

03-23-11   Dirtbag, are you comparing 2 velo subs vs a single f112? 2 ...   Btw22

04-05-11   Yea, two is better than one anytime. i've had my velodyne ...   Sonicray

04-05-11   Yes i was comparing 2 velo to one jl. maybe it's not fair bu ...   Dirtbag

04-06-11   Sonicray. i have mine set up in the very same manner. mine ...   Grannyring

07-08-11   I cannot decide... i heard dd15 vs jl113 - jl113 is better ...   Mgmmgm

07-09-11   I have had a dd-15 for about 6 years now, with software that ...   Fplanner2010

08-03-11   Fplanner2010, if you now have one dd15 and one dd15 plus ...   Sonicray

10-09-11   I run dual dd plus 15s in stereo.... i ran the optimizer an ...   Nak8

10-22-11   Nak8 glad to hear those velos are syncing well and digging ...   Sonicray

11-04-11   Room is 23' wide and 16' deep as i listen to music. i set t ...   Nak8

11-04-11   I'm sitting here listening to a newly installed dd18+ with r ...   Irvrobinson

11-05-11   Well said, irvrobinson. i love my dd15+. i was surprised a ...   Podeschi

11-06-11   I will stick with my 800lb bass horn think it could dissolve ...   Johnk

11-06-11   So, johnk, just curious, what in music generates such bass p ...   Irvrobinson

11-08-11   I use it mostly for music but also movies gaming etc. you wo ...   Johnk

11-08-11   Johnk, i wasn't implying that i thought you used 18" pa ...   Irvrobinson

11-10-11   Much music has infra sonics its not just the range of instru ...   Johnk

11-10-11   Nak8: what advice did you get from velodyne regarding your ...   Sonicray

11-11-11: Sonicray
Irvrobinson
Thanks for the comments. I almost got the 18" but was told it was total overkill for my 26 X 21" vaulted room. Perhaps so. I keep the volume at 2 to 4 usually but that's with the crossover turned way up just so I can hear the sub bring out upper bass details (and it does this with such airiness; very fast sub). I knew this sub was special right when I turned it on, not even synced yet. In fact, I haven't had the luxury of having a profesional come out and set it up. But the thing does a pretty good job of dialing itself in through the auto eq. Enjoy!

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11-11-11   Podeschi, your comment, "i was shocked at how it provi ...   Sonicray

11-11-11   Sonicray, i now have the velodyne paired with magnepan 3.7 s ...   Podeschi

11-12-11   I picked the dd18+, sonicray, because my room is effectively ...   Irvrobinson

11-12-11   That this velo can keep up with and enhance the openness of ...   Sonicray

11-13-11   You can get a smoother response in room using multiple subwo ...   Johnk

11-13-11   Yes two is the way to go. just put a nice cloth tabletop on ...   Podeschi

11-19-11   Yea, the lamp table design is the way to go, which could exp ...   Sonicray

11-21-11   maybe your seat wasn't the best location to catch all the ba ...   Johnnyb53

11-23-11   You are correct, johnnyb53, the acoustics at our local hall ...   Irvrobinson

11-23-11   If money were no object, i'd book myself with all the live e ...   Sonicray

11-24-11   Yes! live concerts with a great orchestra and venue are da b ...   Johnnyb53


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