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05-23-10
Funny... if i am not mistaken, not one person, has really ... Bjpd57a1
05-23-10: Csmgolf
I do not have extensive experience with horns, but I do have some. I had heard several sets of horns and found them to be ok, but not great. The last three years I have gone to the Audiokarma show in Detroit and listened to every speaker I could. I paid particular attention to the horns. Granted, many of the rooms were not optimal. However, the room for Classic Audio Reproductions had people that should have known how to set them up. Each year they had speaker systems of 20k and higher with the set this year at 36k. The mids and treble were very nice but the bass was just plain bad. There was a resonance in the upper bass that made them not listenable for me. I am not sure what was causing it, but it sure sounded like a lively cabinet. I could not believe that a speaker of that price was producing it. Every year I have left their room thinking that if this is the best that horns have to offer, I could not do it. It certainly was not because of cheap electronics on any occasion.
Despite all of that, I purchased a new pair of the Emerald Physics CS2's. The decision was based partly on buzz the product had been receiving and partly because I really like open baffle bass. I burned them in for about 500 hours. At that time I was using a Classe CP60 pre, an Upgrade Company modified Denon 3910. Amplification was a pair of Aragon Palladium 2 monos on the bass section and a Pass Aleph 30 on the tweeter. Ridge Street Audio cables were used through out. I could never warm up to the sound of them. There was a resonance in the mids that would occur that sounded like talking thru a megaphone. It did not happen all of the time, but it was enough to be musically distracting and I found it to be unacceptable. Another thing I did not like about them was that the soundstage was 2 dimensional. That could have been due to my set up, but they were set up per manufaturer instructions even including phone conversations with Clayton Shaw. The 2 dimensional aspect also contributed to the fact that they sounded like a very good PA system, but not what I am looking for when I listen at home. I did listen to the CS3's at AK fest 2009 and found them to be an improvement, but not enough for me to buy them. With my somewhat limited experience, it will take some major convincing to get me to go down that path again.
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05-23-10
There is this device called a, "sub-woofer" it ... Bjpd57a1
05-24-10
I love horn speakers, and agree with just about everything s ... Learsfool
05-24-10
There is this device called a, "sub-woofer" it ... Csmgolf
05-24-10
Herman... sounding like trumpets is a quite precise descript ... Eldartford
05-24-10
Csm, if you were trying to address my issue re: "hybri ... Martykl
05-24-10
Csmgolf has provided a personal account of an honest attempt ... Macrojack
05-24-10
Dartford, i accept your assessment of what you heard. i am c ... Herman
05-24-10
Lots of personal bias, limited experience, a passing listen ... Johnk
05-24-10
Marty, my comments were not addressing your post, but thanks ... Csmgolf
05-24-10
Johnk, looking at your system it raises an interesting quest ... Herman
05-24-10
Its a good question. also lots of good answers that seem to ... Mapman
05-24-10
Take some time to examine this design. http://www.techfx.u ... Macrojack
05-24-10
horns are great. they are the best solution for many applic ... Shadorne
05-24-10
Shadorne, classic audio loudspeakers makes a horn that cross ... Atmasphere
05-24-10
They sound like a pa system. go figger. Markws
05-24-10
I have found this to be a very educational thread. well don ... Onhwy61
05-24-10
Ralph, i would agree - they are at their very best in farf ... Shadorne
05-24-10
"why don't you use horns?" well you asked, so i'm ... Apollo66
05-24-10
Proselytizing? me? well, perhaps i am. but i'm not twisting ... Macrojack
05-24-10
Generalizations about horn systems tend to short-change mode ... Audiokinesis
05-24-10
There is a saying in zen, if you are off by an inch, you a ... Weisselk
05-25-10
The above two posts come from two of the leading lights in a ... Macrojack
05-25-10
I just read my above post and discovered some very poor word ... Macrojack
05-25-10
You can have my horns when you pry my cold, dead hands off o ... Dan_ed
05-25-10
Let's not be adversarial about this. any speaker is a legiti ... Macrojack
05-25-10
Herman... my thoughts are along the lines cited by apollo66. ... Eldartford
05-25-10
"to cover the full spectrum... i can't stand horns. por ... Mapman
05-25-10
Wow what responses;get out the bullet proof vests. Rleff
05-25-10
Eldartford, and appollo66, i remember back in the early 90s ... Atmasphere
05-25-10
Watch out ralph i think there could be a few daggers coming ... Rleff
05-25-10
Atmasphere:okay...very well put. big thumbs up. mapman: new ... Bjpd57a1
05-25-10
Atmasphere, i could not have put it better myself. i spent ... Chadeffect
05-25-10
Many people today are unable to differentiate between what t ... Macrojack
05-26-10
Horns are music and instrument selective. no speakers can r ... Orpheus10
05-26-10
"horns have unexploited potential. lets get busy harves ... Lokie
05-26-10
Herman, the tweeters a horn fostex t500amk2 , mids horn, mid ... Johnk
05-26-10
Horns were the dominant speaker technology for many years, p ... Unsound
05-26-10
Horns can be designed to work great at less than 10ft sittin ... Johnk
05-26-10
Lots of impressive horn setups on this site. this may be th ... Mapman
05-26-10
Johnk - since you know what you are talking about, it would ... Macrojack
05-26-10
Great questions. john and ralph are way ahead of me with hor ... Dan_ed
05-26-10
As herman pointed out back loaded horns really are not horns ... Johnk
05-26-10
Mapman, that system looks impressive but that big white &quo ... Herman
05-26-10
I was hoping to solicit input from people who know and under ... Macrojack
05-26-10
Ah, there is another interesting issue with horns. the quest ... Dan_ed
05-26-10
"the throat may need to be like 35 feet long" i c ... Mapman
05-26-10
Dan - i can hardly fault you for being an analogue purist bu ... Macrojack
05-26-10
"do you admire his system or not?" yes. i just t ... Mapman
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