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04-30-11
I have heard tidal contrivia with wadia s7i, pass labs x-250 ... Roysen
04-30-11
Argyro, how do you think about tidal's electronics vs others ... Quanmer
04-30-11
Another challenge for me is that i don't intend to buy a com ... Roysen
04-30-11
Dear roysen, i have a friend that his plan is to build the ... Geopolitis
04-30-11
Thanks for that geopolitis, i too believe that particular se ... Roysen
04-30-11
Quanmer, i have extensive experience with the tidal preos pr ... Argyro
04-30-11
Roysen, i heard the sunrays sound way too tuby and warms wit ... Tbg
04-30-11
You haven't heard tidal speakers until you've heard them wi ... Calloway
05-02-11
I would say that is wrong audiofeil. neutral is not subjecti ... Roysen
05-02-11
Neutral means one single thing and only: what is written in ... Argyro
05-05-11
Argyro you are refering to the transparency of a system and ... Roysen
05-05-11
I agree completely, of course i mean the whole system, in wh ... Argyro
05-05-11
Nice to know we agree :) i assume your first comment was mea ... Roysen
05-05-11
Yes it was adressed to audiofeil! ;-) happy listening! Argyro
05-05-11
"if what comes out of the speaker is the same as what i ... Fiddler
05-05-11
Although hp was better than most in using words to describe ... Tbg
05-05-11
Roysen, after listening to sunray at my friend's house, i am ... Quanmer
05-06-11
Fiddler, have you heard of something called measurements. t ... Roysen
05-06-11
Fiddler, have you heard of something called measurements. t ... Roysen
05-06-11
Quanmer, i think what you mean by "sharp edge" is ... Tbg
05-06-11
Tbg, the answer to your question why the two sets had tota ... Geopolitis
05-06-11
Geopolitis, i certainly know that the cabling this year was ... Tbg
05-07-11
Roysen, it may come as a surprise to you, but measurements d ... Fiddler
05-07-11
Fiddler, are you trying to imply that measurements are not ... Roysen
05-07-11
Fiddler, there certainly are no deviations between what ja ... Roysen
05-07-11: Tbg
Roysen, I am incredulous at what you have said in the last two postings. I have known many speaker manufacturers over my time in audio. Measurements have not been a major consideration in any case that I know of. I once visited a major UK manufacturer and we listened to two prototypes. Both were identical in every regard, dimensions, drivers, crossover, construction, finish, wire and of course all electronics that we used in listening.
Before he could ask which I liked, I said that one sounded much better. He agreed. I said how could this be. He said they were made in different shops was the only difference. The better one went into production and has been very successful. I am sure each speaker is listened to at his shop as in others but not measured. I have not visited Tidal, so I don't know whether each is measured but I do know they are listened to.
If you mean by "non-neutral" poor sounding, I can agree with all you say. But measurements fail to capture much that is essential to "good sounding." Of course, frequency response, off axis response, phase, and efficiency are all elements of good design, and they can be easily measured in speakers. Manufacturers have little influence on what consumers hook to their speakers, and, as Geopolitis noted, can greatly influence what the speakers sound like, especially it seems the Tidal speakers.
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05-07-11
Wow, not sure you could be any more wrong tbg. you obviously ... Holenneck
05-07-11
Holenneck, i never said i knew about jorn. i see he adds &qu ... Tbg
05-07-11
You said, "measurements have not been a major considera ... Holenneck
05-07-11
Tbg, you are talking about what was considered best of two ... Roysen
05-07-11
Tbg, you are talking about what was considered best of two ... Roysen
05-07-11
Roysen, i don't accept that neutrality is objective. i find ... Tbg
05-08-11
Thg, this is getting tiresome. it really doesn't matter wha ... Roysen
05-08-11
I think i see the issue here. you don't accept that high fid ... Holenneck
05-08-11
Talking about measurements, can anyone tell me where can i f ... Usermanual
05-08-11
Holenneck, i think you misidentify my orientation and my exp ... Tbg
05-10-11
i think there are two separate, but related, issues contain ... Bryoncunningham
05-10-11
Bryon, when i hear/read the world netural, i associate that ... Roysen
05-10-11
Bryoncunningham, you said on the other thread, " a subj ... Tbg
05-10-11
Roysen, i am at a loss as to what you are saying in this pos ... Tbg
05-10-11
The term "neutral sound" is a subjective matter. t ... Focalfan
05-10-11
Thg, neutrality is what we are searching for. its the ultim ... Roysen
05-10-11
Focalfan, lets keep taste out of the discussion. some like ... Roysen
05-10-11
Unfortunately it looks like a few have taken the path to smu ... Deadlyvj
05-11-11
Focalfan, lets keep taste out of the discussion. some like ... Roysen
05-11-11
Roysen, we are communicating but i have no comprehension of ... Tbg
05-11-11
Smudge the image dadlyvj. i am seriously considering a pair ... Roysen
05-11-11
I will be receiving my piano diacera's sometime in july. in ... Bostonbean
05-11-11
Roysen and tbg - in the interest of not hijacking this threa ... Bryoncunningham
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