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04-30-11: Roysen
I have heard Tidal Contrivia with Wadia S7i, Pass Labs X-250.5 and Transparent Reference MM2 cables. The sound was very musical. It was warm and soft. Warmer than most tube setups that I have listened to. Yet it was still detailed and dynamic. I did however think that the warmth did compromise transparency somewhat. I have however heard other Accuton based speakers too like several of the Morten speakers including the Coltrane. Their sonic signature have been exactly the opposite - very transparent and borderline bright and hard. I suppose the Wadia, Pass Labs and Transparent Audio products might have colored the Tidal Audio Contrivia system I heard.
The same weekend I also heard the Magico Q5 with Krell S350 CD-player, darTZeel NHB-18NS preamplifier, darTZeel NHB-458 mono amplifiers and Nordost Odin cables. This system was very transparent, detailed, dynamic with tonal balance more towards light and bright than absolute neutral. Still I think this system was much closer to neutral than the Tidal system.
A few months before this I heard a friends system with the Rockport Technologies Altair speakers, Sim Audio Moon CD-player and amplifier (don't remember the models) and Kimber Black Pearl speaker cables. It was obvious the amplifier had not enough power to show the speakers true potential. Bass and dynamics were lacking and the stereo image did not free itself from the speakers. However the tonal balance was the most neutral of the three speakers. Trancparency and resolution was also very good but not quite as good as the
Magico Q5.
Please also notice that these three systems were playing in in different rooms.
My question to you guys here is if this overly warm sound from the Tidal system I listened to is a "house character" of the Tidal speakers or if this was just a system matched to sound like that by its owner by using electronics and cables with this character?
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04-30-11
Argyro, how do you think about tidal's electronics vs others ... Quanmer
04-30-11
Another challenge for me is that i don't intend to buy a com ... Roysen
04-30-11
Dear roysen, i have a friend that his plan is to build the ... Geopolitis
04-30-11
Thanks for that geopolitis, i too believe that particular se ... Roysen
04-30-11
Quanmer, i have extensive experience with the tidal preos pr ... Argyro
04-30-11
Roysen, i heard the sunrays sound way too tuby and warms wit ... Tbg
04-30-11
You haven't heard tidal speakers until you've heard them wi ... Calloway
05-02-11
I would say that is wrong audiofeil. neutral is not subjecti ... Roysen
05-02-11
Neutral means one single thing and only: what is written in ... Argyro
05-05-11
Argyro you are refering to the transparency of a system and ... Roysen
05-05-11
I agree completely, of course i mean the whole system, in wh ... Argyro
05-05-11
Nice to know we agree :) i assume your first comment was mea ... Roysen
05-05-11
Yes it was adressed to audiofeil! ;-) happy listening! Argyro
05-05-11
"if what comes out of the speaker is the same as what i ... Fiddler
05-05-11
Although hp was better than most in using words to describe ... Tbg
05-05-11
Roysen, after listening to sunray at my friend's house, i am ... Quanmer
05-06-11
Fiddler, have you heard of something called measurements. t ... Roysen
05-06-11
Fiddler, have you heard of something called measurements. t ... Roysen
05-06-11
Quanmer, i think what you mean by "sharp edge" is ... Tbg
05-06-11
Tbg, the answer to your question why the two sets had tota ... Geopolitis
05-06-11
Geopolitis, i certainly know that the cabling this year was ... Tbg
05-07-11
Roysen, it may come as a surprise to you, but measurements d ... Fiddler
05-07-11
Fiddler, are you trying to imply that measurements are not ... Roysen
05-07-11
Fiddler, there certainly are no deviations between what ja ... Roysen
05-07-11
Roysen, i am incredulous at what you have said in the last t ... Tbg
05-07-11
Wow, not sure you could be any more wrong tbg. you obviously ... Holenneck
05-07-11
Holenneck, i never said i knew about jorn. i see he adds &qu ... Tbg
05-07-11
You said, "measurements have not been a major considera ... Holenneck
05-07-11
Tbg, you are talking about what was considered best of two ... Roysen
05-07-11
Tbg, you are talking about what was considered best of two ... Roysen
05-07-11
Roysen, i don't accept that neutrality is objective. i find ... Tbg
05-08-11
Thg, this is getting tiresome. it really doesn't matter wha ... Roysen
05-08-11
I think i see the issue here. you don't accept that high fid ... Holenneck
05-08-11
Talking about measurements, can anyone tell me where can i f ... Usermanual
05-08-11
Holenneck, i think you misidentify my orientation and my exp ... Tbg
05-10-11
i think there are two separate, but related, issues contain ... Bryoncunningham
05-10-11
Bryon, when i hear/read the world netural, i associate that ... Roysen
05-10-11
Bryoncunningham, you said on the other thread, " a subj ... Tbg
05-10-11
Roysen, i am at a loss as to what you are saying in this pos ... Tbg
05-10-11
The term "neutral sound" is a subjective matter. t ... Focalfan
05-10-11
Thg, neutrality is what we are searching for. its the ultim ... Roysen
05-10-11
Focalfan, lets keep taste out of the discussion. some like ... Roysen
05-10-11
Unfortunately it looks like a few have taken the path to smu ... Deadlyvj
05-11-11
Focalfan, lets keep taste out of the discussion. some like ... Roysen
05-11-11
Roysen, we are communicating but i have no comprehension of ... Tbg
05-11-11
Smudge the image dadlyvj. i am seriously considering a pair ... Roysen
05-11-11
I will be receiving my piano diacera's sometime in july. in ... Bostonbean
05-11-11
Roysen and tbg - in the interest of not hijacking this threa ... Bryoncunningham
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