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12-06-09
Tweeters are generally more efficient than woofers, so cross ... Eldartford
12-06-09
How far out from the wall do you have them? they need at lea ... Wgallupe
12-06-09: Timrhu
They are 34 inches from the back wall. If they were too close to the wall I would expect excessive bass. Actually the bass seems very good, better than I expected. Working with the toe-in made a huge difference earlier today but the harshness is still there with certain recordings.
The issue is excessive treble. If the music is well recorded they sound very good, I'd say keepers for sure. But if the recording is poor they sound extremely harsh.
My system is built to sound good (listenable) even on poorly mastered recordings. If these speakers aren't capable of this then there's no reason for me to pursue them. They are sounding excellent now with XTC's "Apple Venus."
Thanks, keep it coming.
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12-07-09
they are 34 inches from the back wall. if they were too clos ... Drew_eckhardt
12-07-09
I don't use tweeter attenuation, but i do find it necessary ... Brownsfan
12-07-09
I use a 2 ohm resistor on my mmgs. without them, the sound ... Jult52
12-07-09
I tried the attenuators on my mg111a's on a few occasions an ... Hifiharv
12-07-09
I use 1 ohm resistors in my 3.6's. with etf 5.8 software run ... Jimburger
12-07-09
I forgot to mention magnepan's statement that the mg1.6 (and ... Eldartford
12-07-09: Timrhu
Thanks for all the responses.
Drew, I wasn't aware of the lower bass when near wall. I have moved them out a few inches and am now exceeding 3 ft.
Hifiharv and Brownsfan, my room is well treated. I use mostly Aurelex products but have some absorption panels also. Corners are treated with bass traps.
Jult52 and Jimburger, I am picking up some resistors from the dealer tomorrow. We'll see how they work.
I do appreciate the comments. It is reassuring to know people do use the resistors. The sonic presentation is what I had hoped for with these speakers but I can not live with the hot (to my ears) treble. One of my main goals is to be able to listen to poorly engineered music I like without being driven out of the room by excessive upper frequency energy.
Timrhu (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-08-09
Put in the 1.2 ohm resistors and listen should be what the ... Audioconnection
12-08-09
Setup have you tried tipping them back with the little nylon ... Magfan
12-08-09
I use auralex in the corners. if you already have some of t ... Brownsfan
12-08-09: Timrhu
Talked to the dealer and am going to pick up some resistors today. Also. I moved the speakers out into the room as suggested, wow, what a difference. Much improved. We'll see what the resistors do.
Brownsfan, I used the term bass trap lower case. What I do use are Aurelex panels that are affixed to acoustic ceiling tiles and running about 6 feet high.
Magfan, the 12s come with feet that give them a tilt back. I tried propping them up to nearly vertical. They sounded good in the listening chair but terrible anywhere else in the room.
The comments are appreciated.
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12-08-09
Toe in will increase treble response at the listening positi ... Wgallupe
12-08-09
Wgallupe writes toe in will increase treble response at the ... Drew_eckhardt
12-09-09: Timrhu
After installing the resistors (1.2 ohms) from the dealer and playing a bit more with the position the speakers are sounding very good. I plan on listening a bit more and then swapping my Kestrels back in. I have a feeling though that the Maggies will win this contest. They really do seem to disappear.
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12-12-09: Timrhu
Thought I'd finish this thread off.
After careful evaluation the Magnepan 12s went back to the dealer. I tried all of the suggestions that were possible in the week that I auditioned them but they never got me there. I spent about two solid hours Wednesday evening listening to various music, some well recorded and some not so well recorded. On Thursday I swapped my Kestrels back in and listened to the same music. The Kestrels were truly better for me.
I won't spend time critiquing the Maggies but they just did not work in my small room. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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