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  SPEAKER HUM
I have been playing with a new system. I was driving my speakers with a MingDa MC 34 AB tube amp (75 wt/ch ultralinear 40wt/ch triode) which is powered with 8 EL 34 tubes. It can be used as an integrated amp, and when I used it as such, it was DEAD quiet.
I decided to make a good thing better, and just got the matching MingDa MC 2A3X preamp to go with it. The speaker hum when both are powered up is awful...not that very low level stuff you sometimes get with an amp/preamp set up...but loud enough to hear during quiet passages of musical pieces.
I have been tormented in the past with trying to eliminate speaker hum...any help out there for this system??
Thanks so much
Rsasso  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-12-09
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07-12-09   I do not envy you, it is a pain. my last bout was resolved b ...   Richard_stacy

07-12-09   Have you ruled out bad tube on the preamp (or simply a defec ...   Millicurie999

07-12-09   Although it is a bit technical, the following paper provides ...   Almarg

07-12-09: Rsasso
To Millicurie

amp and preamp are plugged into separate outlets

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07-12-09: Rsasso
To Millicurie

I substituted a small Tono preamp for the big Ming Da...result was LESS hum (and higher frequency)...but still some hum. I am not sure what that tells us.

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07-12-09   Iirc, plugging the amp and pre to separate lines is a very g ...   Swampwalker

07-12-09   At the risk of being too obvious - have you tried a cheater ...   Newbee

07-12-09: Rsasso
To Millicurie

OK: I substituted the interconnects between amp and preamp with heavier shielded cables and that had no effect. The hum is NOT there if the amp only is turned on.

The hum is there when the preamp is on, even with no components connected to it, as soon as you turn on the amp.

If you TAP the preamp when the amp/preamp is humming...there is a ringing sound out of the speakers. If you even gently tap the ceramic bases of those 6SN7 tubes, there is a louder ringing through the speakers...now THAT can't be right.
Does that speak to defective tubes, or, more likely, a defective preamp????

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07-12-09: Rsasso
To Newbee

Someone stole my cheater plug. I will get one at the hardware store and give that a try. Thanks

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07-12-09   that's typical of a microphonic tube (or tubes). hum can al ...   Tvad

07-12-09   I would try another preamp, if you can get your hands on 1. ...   Fplanner2000

07-12-09: Rsasso
To Fplanner2000

I have to share my ignorance. Don't you need XLR input/outputs to connect the preamp and amp with balanced IC's? These components have RCA connectors.

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07-12-09: Rsasso
To Tvad,

I dont have any of these 6SN7's to rotate right now. The microphonic tube you mentioned as common; is that normal as well? The microphonic effect of tapping the tube doesnt mean the tube is damaged, correct?

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07-12-09   that's a good question. many of the most sought after and e ...   Tvad

07-12-09   As swampwalker mentioned, amp and preamp in two different ou ...   Millicurie999

07-13-09: Rsasso
To Tvad,

Thanks again for your very knowledgable input on my setup. It is appreciated, and I will get some 6SN7's and try out your suggestions.

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07-13-09: Rsasso
To Millicurie999

Since the amp is about 10ft away from the preamp,it would take an extension cord, but yes, I can get everyting (sources included) into the same surge protector.

Out of curiosity though, if that is the problem, would a cheater plug on the amp (plugged into its own outlet as it is now) diagnose the problem...would I expect the hum to disappear if the separate outlet situation is causing the hum?

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07-13-09   yes, it might. with components that are connected via sing ...   Almarg

07-13-09   One other potential cause of hum would be a cable tv that sh ...   Goose

07-14-09   Another thing to check is whether the tubes are propertly se ...   Cleaneduphippy


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