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11-17-08
You can go home again..the veritys Jaybo
11-17-08
Doesn't seem like a bad idea. if you like them stick with t ... Bar81
11-17-08
i have heard the parsifals though not in my system and was ... Phaser
11-17-08
Seems to me there is no way you could go wrong with any of y ... Pubul57
11-17-08
I vote for the parsifal ovations, just as i did. can't see ... Jb8312
11-17-08
It would take a lot to recommend anything other than the ver ... Pubul57
11-17-08
I owned the parsifal encore, and they are truly a great spea ... Fjn04
11-17-08
Haven't heard the others but the w.b. act's are really reall ... Aldavis
11-18-08
Read the article on the december 2008 issue of stereophile. ... Gundam91
11-18-08
R32nj, perhaps you could tell us why you are going away from ... Amfibius
11-18-08
The avantgardes sounded dynamic and fast, but the bass integ ... R32nj
11-18-08
For point source soundstaging and cohesiveness across the sp ... Pubul57
11-18-08
Magico v3! but as mentioned in post above, will take slightl ... Bvdiman
11-24-08
I had the opportunity to hear the verity sarastro's. i am a ... Sounds_real_audio
11-25-08
Sounds real audio, did you hear the sarastros at the rmaf? ... Gundam91
11-25-08
..from carbon fiber so there is no cabinet design that is mo ... Dhaan
11-25-08
Gundam91 i didn't get to hear them at the rmaf. kind of bus ... Sounds_real_audio
11-25-08
Oh, dear… so according to your theory, a thin steel sheet ... Dhaan
11-30-08
Dhaan, i do agree with you that carbon fiber is widely used ... Vangoughear
11-30-08
R32rj, have had wb act in it's latest incarnation for quite ... Tuboo
11-30-08
Given the op's choice, i would select the pasifal all day lo ... Audiofeil
11-30-08
I think what the wb dealer means is that since benesch are m ... Beheme
11-30-08
there is nothing natural about a speaker that is 6-8db depr ... Dhaan
11-30-08
Vangoughear nonsense. you can’t eat the cake and have it to ... Dhaan
12-01-08
dhaan you are mixing two separate but very important issue ... Sounds_real_audio
12-01-08
sounds_real_audio you are way over your head and insist of ... Dhaan
12-01-08
Whatever the measurements, the wb sounded darn good at rmaf ... Pubul57
12-01-08
nothing wrong with that. assuming you know what you are lis ... Dhaan
12-02-08
I would also add the vandersteen 5a s to your list the five ... Audioconnection
12-02-08
12-01-08: dhaan sounds_real_audio you are way over your head ... Audiofeil
12-02-08
dhaan by all means enlighten me. tell me exactly why carbo ... Sounds_real_audio
12-02-08
perhaps their engineers are fools like me now you're enligh ... Audiofeil
12-02-08
Dhaan, i agree that if you make claims for your technology y ... Pubul57
12-03-08
Pubul57 i think that people in general trust their ears to ... Dhaan
12-03-08
The goal may be to reach peace of mind on the long haul. we ... Tuboo
12-03-08
Dhaan, i used to be purely in the objectivist camp like you. ... Aldavis
12-03-08
Dhaan, please, read my answer again. what i wrote before is ... Vangoughear
12-03-08
I read your posts very carefully. i object to marketing slog ... Dhaan
12-04-08
I had wb act. maybe i had not the right amplification (ml 27 ... Ajahu
12-04-08
Here is the ultimate primer on speaker-cabinet design to dea ... Holenneck
12-04-08
I think i am going to wait until the magico v2 is released t ... R32nj
12-04-08: Martykl
Dhaan,
Interpreting anechoic measurements is an interesting excercise. Depending on testing technique, results may vary considerably. Assuming that the graph you cited contains no measurement artifacts in the bass (no sure thing, at all), I'd still read this graph much differently than you do.
These speakers aren't 6-8db depressed in the presence region. The full treble region is shelved down about 3 db from the bass/mid and you are seeing that transition. This downward tilt in anechoic response is almost always a good thing for in-room performance. Unless your room has a major bump above 80hz (and many do) to balance the increased presence/treble energy experienced in most rooms, flat anechoic response theough the treble will sound awfully aggressive in-room. If you employ a Hemholtz resonator to correct for this bump (bass trap, bass busters, etc), you will certainly appreciate the Verity's response pattern.
The graph looks worse than it is because there is also a troubling looking suckout in the lower treble from about 3K to 5K. (This range begins in the highest octave on a piano and extends past C7, well above what I'd call "presence".) II've never noticed this issue on my (pre-Ovation) P/Es, but it may be unique to the Ovations. It might make these sound a bit darker than mine, but again, this is tough to predict in-room. In any event, I would never dismiss a speaker based on this anechoic test result.
Marty
BTW, have you ever actually heard them?
Martykl (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-04-08
Marty, unfortunately, these measurements, and the sarastro ... Dhaan
12-04-08
Dhaan, what handful of speakers do you like based on their m ... Pubul57
12-05-08
Dhaan, the reason i asked if you've heard them is because y ... Martykl
12-05-08
Marty, i appreciate your civil reply, but please understand ... Dhaan
12-05-08
"sound reproduction is not a subjective matter"... ... Tuboo
12-05-08
Dhaan, this is one of those agree to disagree things. i ha ... Martykl
12-05-08
I think we should all thank our lucky stars we have dhaan ar ... Tfrumweiller
12-05-08
i will gladly tell you more but first, let’s make sure you ... Dhaan
12-05-08
Marty, i agree, i've heard someone, other than dhaan, not li ... Pubul57
12-05-08
Pubul, many contributors to these threads maintain that the ... Martykl
12-05-08
Marty, there are endless viable possibilities to a ‘sensible ... Dhaan
12-05-08
Dhaan, i understand your point. it would be difficult to d ... Martykl
12-05-08
But dhann you are assuming that eveyone purchases their spea ... Aldavis
12-05-08
Interesting discussion. it seems stereophile's john atkinson ... Tubegroover
12-05-08
Tube, if i recall correctly, ja noted measurement issues w ... Martykl
12-05-08
You are raising good points that can help advance the discus ... Dhaan
12-05-08
To me, listening in room with you electronics, and yes, usin ... Pubul57
12-05-08
Well of course your right dhaan but sf actually uses the 'tr ... Aldavis
12-05-08
i have asked myself that same question many times. you may ... Dhaan
12-06-08
Al and dhaan, i agree that wilson's speakers are usually vo ... Martykl
12-06-08
The car analogy is interesting too. many love to associate t ... Tuboo
12-06-08
Well dhaan, i agree that goosebumps can be gotten on specifi ... Tubegroover
12-06-08
Marty, your “ it is the room” solution to the problem of inc ... Dhaan
12-06-08
Dhaan, speakers sound different - in tonal balance - in d ... Martykl
12-06-08
But marty, it is all related. the suck out in the verity fr ... Dhaan
12-07-08
Once again, indeed, the verity may have a thousand problems ... Martykl
12-07-08
So if we are concluding, i take it you see no correlation be ... Dhaan
12-08-08
I have no exp w/ wb but did audition a variety of models fro ... Henryhk
12-08-08
Another famous reviewer who didn't like the parsifals at all ... Vladimir
12-08-08
Dhaan, what are five objectively good speakers you think we ... Pubul57
12-08-08
Psb, ravel, tad, focal and magico. they are all different an ... Dhaan
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