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04-21-10
Kristian85 hit the mark, imo. perceptive and succinct. Tvad
04-21-10
"kristian85 hit the mark, imo. perceptive and succinct. ... Mapman
04-21-10
bullseye. Tvad
04-21-10
Yes, i would agree also that many often mistake different ... Mapman
04-21-10
Kristian may be a trained listener, but i'm a trained measur ... Martykl
04-21-10
Kristian85, your nose is so far in the air you can't see in ... Thehungryeye
04-21-10
My system and the ohms in conjunction are pretty flat based ... Mapman
04-22-10
Horses for courses. a few months ago, i listened to $20k/pa ... Bondmanp
04-22-10
The unique design of the ohms (walsh drivers) are what attra ... Mapman
04-22-10
Does anyone owning ohm walsh speakers listen primarily to cl ... Rpfef
04-22-10
Rplef, that's a very good question. audiogoner mamboni is ... Mapman
04-22-10
Btw, i supect a full/wider range walsh driver like those fou ... Mapman
04-22-10
I'm buoyed by the reports of fairly flat in-room fr of recen ... Kristian85
04-22-10
I remember one time using an audio control c-101 equalizer t ... Tvad
04-22-10
One way o another, speakers (including ohms) must be mated w ... Mapman
04-22-10
I'd tend to agree that active designs address some real issu ... Martykl
04-22-10
Mapman, i understand your comment, however my point was (i t ... Tvad
04-22-10
Kristian makes some good points - but the pro worlds and civ ... Zkzpb8
04-22-10: Almarg
I remember one time using an Audio Control C-101 equalizer to EQ my system's room response so it measured flat. The Audio Control unit came with a microphone and automatic EQ software to enable this to be done.
The funny thing is the results absolutely sucked, and the Audio Control manual (which is perhaps the best manual I've ever read...helpful and humorous at the same time) said they'd probably suck.
I'd be very surprised if most listeners would really prefer flat room response given the opportunity to A/B the options. Grant, I believe that a major reason for that is that the mic + equalizer/analyzer, unless it is very sophisticated, doesn't discriminate between direct (early arriving) sound, and reflected (later arriving) sound, while our ears do.
Which would seem to say that unless the room is an anechoic chamber, a setup that produces measured flat frequency response at the listening position is wrong "a priori."
Best regards,
-- Al
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04-22-10
good hearing does not have a flat response. http://www.en ... Line
04-22-10
by *set up* are you referring specifically to the eq i used, ... Tvad
04-22-10
any system, unless the measurement equipment is extremely so ... Almarg
04-22-10
Its true our ears are sensitive detectors of sound. try the ... Mapman
04-22-10
Al, what you describe seems to me to be an argument against ... Tvad
04-22-10
i much prefer the ear-cupped sound. someone should make an e ... Tvad
04-22-10
Re flat frequency response at the listening position. every ... Newbee
04-22-10
yes, exactly, although i wouldn't say "avoids." i ... Almarg
04-22-10
This is a very hot debate and i'm not sure i have much to co ... Hifidon
04-23-10
Interesting mwts (which i have not heard) were more forward. ... Mapman
04-23-10
Tvad, do you happen to remember i think stereophile or one o ... Frazeur1
04-23-10
Rpfef: fwiw, i listen to some classical, but not a majority ... Bondmanp
04-23-10
Almarg is correct; shoving a highly resolving system's signa ... Kristian85
04-23-10
Martykl, there is never anything to be traded away by using ... Kristian85
04-23-10
"what i cannot abide are speakers with messy fr and dis ... Mapman
04-23-10
Kristian85, putting aside the issue of the audio control c-1 ... Tvad
04-23-10
Tvad, it's difficult, and requires more sophisticated measur ... Kristian85
04-23-10
Kristian, of course there is a trade-away, although it may ... Martykl
04-23-10
what i'm having trouble understanding is this statement take ... Tvad
04-24-10
Tvad said, "i'd be very surprised if most listeners wou ... Acoustat6
04-24-10
Tvad said, "how do you measure your room to determine i ... Acoustat6
04-24-10
Bob, if you do not want flat, what do you want? output gen ... Martykl
04-24-10
the option at the time i owned the audio control c-101 (with ... Tvad
04-24-10
bob, i appreciate your desire to be helpful, however this qu ... Tvad
04-24-10
I'm at a loss on what is really meant by a flat room. for in ... Line
04-24-10
Line -- that was a good reference you provided earlier. how ... Almarg
04-24-10
Al--i see. what i thing comes much closer to reaching that g ... Line
04-24-10
Yes, i did the measurement thing years ago out of curiosity, ... Mapman
04-24-10
Line -- yes, i have two or three binaural recordings from th ... Almarg
04-24-10
Just to set the record straight, in an earlier post i mentio ... Tvad
05-07-10
Mapman, i agree! ohm was way ahead of their time. i have bee ... Armyscout41
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