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04-21-10
Kristian85 hit the mark, imo. perceptive and succinct. Tvad
04-21-10
"kristian85 hit the mark, imo. perceptive and succinct. ... Mapman
04-21-10
bullseye. Tvad
04-21-10
Yes, i would agree also that many often mistake different ... Mapman
04-21-10
Kristian may be a trained listener, but i'm a trained measur ... Martykl
04-21-10
Kristian85, your nose is so far in the air you can't see in ... Thehungryeye
04-21-10
My system and the ohms in conjunction are pretty flat based ... Mapman
04-22-10: Bondmanp
Horses for courses. A few months ago, I listened to $20K/pair powered ATC towers that Kristian85 is "beholden" to (a larger version of the monitor that Holt loved so much). Along with a few other experienced audiophiles, I was less than impressed. Sure, they were very dynamic and played really loudly, but they lacked good soundstage rendering and image placement. Like many speakers that come from the pro-studio world, I found them a bit too analytical and not too musical. Here was a speaker at $20K that I liked less than my $4300 amp/speaker combo. IOW, this time, "different" was not "better". Of course, I am not bothered by Kristian85's preference for powered studio monitor speakers, and I hope he enjoys listening to music on them, but they are not for me, and many others I know.
I understand his observations of "different" vs. "better". I decided to try the Ohms specifically because they offered a radically different design from many of the speakers in my price range that didn't do it for me. For someone like me, who cannot afford to spend five figures on admittedly better speakers (not just different), the Ohms offer, IMHO, a fantastic value.
I had my last loudspeakers for nearly ten years, so I don't think I can be accused of having audio nervosa syndrome. I kept them as my mid-fi system slowly evolved to an entry-level high-end system. When I felt that improvements were no longer audible via my old speakers, I decided to upgrade. My intention is to continue to improve my source and amplification components (not because of audio nervosa, but because I have financial limitations) and hear how the upgrades manifest themselves in the Walsh 2000s.
For many of us, that's a large part of this hobby.
And Kristian85, if you are ever in central/Northern New Jersey, you are most welcome to stop by and listen to my Ohms, for more than 15 minutes, if you like.
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04-22-10
The unique design of the ohms (walsh drivers) are what attra ... Mapman
04-22-10
Does anyone owning ohm walsh speakers listen primarily to cl ... Rpfef
04-22-10
Rplef, that's a very good question. audiogoner mamboni is ... Mapman
04-22-10
Btw, i supect a full/wider range walsh driver like those fou ... Mapman
04-22-10
I'm buoyed by the reports of fairly flat in-room fr of recen ... Kristian85
04-22-10
I remember one time using an audio control c-101 equalizer t ... Tvad
04-22-10
One way o another, speakers (including ohms) must be mated w ... Mapman
04-22-10
I'd tend to agree that active designs address some real issu ... Martykl
04-22-10
Mapman, i understand your comment, however my point was (i t ... Tvad
04-22-10
Kristian makes some good points - but the pro worlds and civ ... Zkzpb8
04-22-10
grant, i believe that a major reason for that is that the mi ... Almarg
04-22-10
good hearing does not have a flat response. http://www.en ... Line
04-22-10
by *set up* are you referring specifically to the eq i used, ... Tvad
04-22-10
any system, unless the measurement equipment is extremely so ... Almarg
04-22-10
Its true our ears are sensitive detectors of sound. try the ... Mapman
04-22-10
Al, what you describe seems to me to be an argument against ... Tvad
04-22-10
i much prefer the ear-cupped sound. someone should make an e ... Tvad
04-22-10
Re flat frequency response at the listening position. every ... Newbee
04-22-10
yes, exactly, although i wouldn't say "avoids." i ... Almarg
04-22-10
This is a very hot debate and i'm not sure i have much to co ... Hifidon
04-23-10
Interesting mwts (which i have not heard) were more forward. ... Mapman
04-23-10
Tvad, do you happen to remember i think stereophile or one o ... Frazeur1
04-23-10
Rpfef: fwiw, i listen to some classical, but not a majority ... Bondmanp
04-23-10
Almarg is correct; shoving a highly resolving system's signa ... Kristian85
04-23-10
Martykl, there is never anything to be traded away by using ... Kristian85
04-23-10
"what i cannot abide are speakers with messy fr and dis ... Mapman
04-23-10
Kristian85, putting aside the issue of the audio control c-1 ... Tvad
04-23-10
Tvad, it's difficult, and requires more sophisticated measur ... Kristian85
04-23-10
Kristian, of course there is a trade-away, although it may ... Martykl
04-23-10
what i'm having trouble understanding is this statement take ... Tvad
04-24-10
Tvad said, "i'd be very surprised if most listeners wou ... Acoustat6
04-24-10
Tvad said, "how do you measure your room to determine i ... Acoustat6
04-24-10
Bob, if you do not want flat, what do you want? output gen ... Martykl
04-24-10
the option at the time i owned the audio control c-101 (with ... Tvad
04-24-10
bob, i appreciate your desire to be helpful, however this qu ... Tvad
04-24-10
I'm at a loss on what is really meant by a flat room. for in ... Line
04-24-10
Line -- that was a good reference you provided earlier. how ... Almarg
04-24-10
Al--i see. what i thing comes much closer to reaching that g ... Line
04-24-10
Yes, i did the measurement thing years ago out of curiosity, ... Mapman
04-24-10
Line -- yes, i have two or three binaural recordings from th ... Almarg
04-24-10
Just to set the record straight, in an earlier post i mentio ... Tvad
05-07-10
Mapman, i agree! ohm was way ahead of their time. i have bee ... Armyscout41
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