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06-11-08
Hi dave, my only concern would be a very steep volume up/do ... Guidocorona
06-11-08
Again i agree with dave here. i have tried the avantgarde u ... Chadeffect
06-11-08
The continuum is .5db per attenuator step (i think that the ... Dcstep
06-11-08
Dcstep, until you have heard all the tube amps in the world ... Atmasphere
06-11-08
"until you have heard all the tube amps in the world it ... Guidocorona
06-11-08
We are all cooking in this audio kitchen, i have tried ss ch ... Jsadurni
06-11-08
agreed and distortion is the primary reason why it sounds o ... Shadorne
06-11-08
06-11-08: atmasphere said: "dcstep, until you have hear ... Dcstep
06-11-08
"a live orchestra can reach 115db peaks btw" is t ... Mapman
06-11-08
I looked it up on the american hearing organization website ... Mapman
06-11-08
I sit in front of the percussion in an orchestra or two, and ... Dcstep
06-11-08
It all falls down to, do you want to be the conductor or do ... Jsadurni
06-12-08
Dcstep, your goals and mine look identical on paper. we are ... Atmasphere
06-12-08
Yes atmashphere, i do think that we have the same end goals ... Dcstep
06-13-08
Atma notes aboveby which cryptic remark, he means: it takes ... Gregm
06-13-08
Interesting responses. narrowing the field a little. not i ... Musicnoise
06-13-08
Just go with the b&w just not the 803. i think the best mode ... Mordante
06-13-08
Musicnoise: when i listen to orchestra music and the peaks ... Pacific_island_audio
06-13-08
Musicnoise, vienna acoustics has several speakers that will ... Dcstep
06-13-08
Vienna acoustics are very attractive options to b&w for clas ... Mapman
06-14-08
Harbeth super hl5. Selfdivider
06-14-08
Selfdivider, your kind recommendation is a little. . . how s ... Guidocorona
06-15-08
Hi dave, we will be at rmaf. bring your classical torture tr ... Atmasphere
06-16-08
See you there buddy. dave Dcstep
06-16-08
Shouldn't all speakers play all music? although at least b&w ... Gawdbless
06-16-08
Gawdbell said: "shouldn't all speakers play all music? ... Dcstep
06-16-08
"b&w/vienna acoustics are consistent in that they don't ... Guidocorona
06-16-08: Shadorne
Narrowing the field a little. Not interested in horns, electrostats, personal (vs established company) designs etc. Speaker must sound good for both 105 db orchestral and 70 db chamber.
David,
Ok - let me see - no horn, no panels, no boutique designs.
If you mean 105 db SPL continuous then I'd recommend that you need at least an ATC SCM 50ASL (like Gordon Holt who likes classical) and possibly a JL F113 sub or two depending on room size and placement - IMHO.
Why? Because if you are listening at 105 db SPL (and sitting a typical 2 meters back) then this is 111 db SPL continuous sound and you will also need plenty of headroom (or else it will sound strained and dull with most non pro dynamic speakers and you ideally want an effortless sound). If you have a bigger room and sit a little further back then you probably need an SCM100 or bigger, as well as the sub(s).
The 3 inch midrange in the SCM50 is on the right while the bigger 3" dome for the larger SCM100 to SCM300 range is on the left. Why a photo? because a picture is worth a thousand words - this 3 inch driver has a bigger magnet and bigger diameter voice coil than you see on 99% of all woofers and subwoofers...there is a reason for this and at 105 db SPL at the listening position you will hear that reason (without a horn you will definitely need a design with big motors). It has a wide "waveguide" to control dispersion (this is not a horn).
An extremely dynamic pro driver three way like ATC or PMC can certainly handle your needs without the least hint of strain and also play at 70 db with chamber music with no problem with the same accuracy and balance. This is a key reason these speakers are popular in mix/mastering. Note that your ears will inevitably suffer the usual Fletcher Munson loss of hearing sensitivity to bass frequencies at low levels - so it will not sound quite the same but it will not be the speaker fault - just use some loudness or bass tone control if you want a fuller sound at very low levels. Usually the mastering engineers take care of this for you - rock and Mahler sould be mixed thin in the bass so it sounds best real loud (as it is when heard live) - the opposite is done for chamber music.
FWIW - I don't hear significant differences in IC's, cables or most CD players - perhaps I have tin ears from listening too loudly!
Good luck and happy listening - just don't play it too loudly for too long as it is not good for your hearing.
Shadorne (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
06-16-08
105db continuous at the listening seat is "crazy loud&q ... Dcstep
06-16-08
Guido- i will certainly look into the soundings/jrdg/sumiko ... Gawdbless
06-16-08
Got a chance to listen to several active speakers this weeke ... Musicnoise
06-16-08
Hi gawdbless, tell the truth, i did hear the mahlers with ... Guidocorona
06-16-08
And yes, for what it matters, my test selections at rmaf we ... Guidocorona
06-16-08
Guido my friend, that's mostly pretty polite classical music ... Dcstep
06-16-08
Well, yes, to some extent at least they are '[polite' select ... Guidocorona
06-16-08
Actually, the dvorak 9th with bernstein is a pretty interest ... Guidocorona
06-16-08
i agree and there are few non horn speaker designs that can ... Shadorne
06-17-08
I need to look for a new rite of spring, guido. sady my only ... Dcstep
06-17-08
power consumption is low - no more than four amps for the p ... Shadorne
06-17-08
Hi dave, if there were a relatively recent -- or well remas ... Guidocorona
06-17-08
Ozawa's rite (with the cso no less -- no my friend i'm not s ... Dcstep
06-17-08
I use the rite of spring that was recorded by kenneth wilken ... Atmasphere
06-17-08
I tend to steer clear of using classical music to evaluate a ... Gawdbless
06-17-08
I like to test with a variety of music, but complex classica ... Dcstep
06-17-08
One recording that seems to have nearly everything is das re ... Atmasphere
06-17-08
that would be typical midrange compression (heat and non-li ... Shadorne
06-18-08
I hope the last post i made above was at least useful to one ... Shadorne
06-18-08
Harbeth c7esiii or the super hl5 Curio
06-18-08
Shadorne, thanks for you links and comments. i read it and j ... Dcstep
06-18-08
Hi atmasphere, you said, "this recording puts most spea ... Acoustat6
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