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  Small room, "budget priced" speaker advice, please
Hi,

I recently sold my dearly beloved, old Vandersteen 2C's here on Audiogon (and I hope SgtPeppers is loving them at this moment!) :-) I did this because in our remodeled house, my new listening room (which will double as a guest room) is just too small for the 2C's. The Spousal Acceptance Factor was just too low. ;-)

I have a PS Audio Elite-Plus integrated amp for power (around 70 W/Ch) and a soon-to-be-shipped-off-for-a-refurb Sota Sapphire for an analog front end (I have "miles" of vinyl)! I will also get a CD player at some point.

For now, I need to find a pair of best-of-breed, truly "budget" speakers. By "budget," I'm talking upper limit of $850/pair. (Gone are my free-spending, single days... I'm a dad now...) :-)

Listening habits: lots of 60's and 70's folk and rock, some jazz, Donald Fagen/Steely Dan, a little classical. Listening volume: not too loud. Sonic preferences: I value transparency and imaging/soundstage. Bass should be accurate above all, as opposed to chest-pounding powerful.

I've looked at Paradigms, which I know are highly regarded at lower price points. Trouble is, our one, local dealer is primarily a TV/home theater outfit, so you're trying to hear them in a showroom crammed with other stuff... you know the drill. I've also hit a high end shop. Listened to a pair of PSB small towers and disliked them; they sounded muddy and veiled to me. Listened to a pair of the smallest Rega's and liked them quite a bit, but would want to go back to listen again. I even wrote to PS Audio for advice; they recommended the "baby" Epos monitors, but they're out of my price range.

Thanks if you've read this far. Knowing how subjective all this is, I'd still welcome any advice you have to offer about what I should try to audition.
Rebbi  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

06-04-08
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06-04-08   Totem arro, silverline prelude ii or silverline minuet are a ...   Tvad

06-05-08   Used spendor s3/5 or s3/5se would be within or below your pr ...   Oneinthepipe

06-05-08   There are a couple of pairs of spica tc-50s for sale on a'go ...   Gsm18439

06-05-08   Baby epos out of your price range? you can find the being d ...   Bud_h

06-05-08   If you're coming from vandys, i'd suggest ohm microwalshes. ...   Zkzpb8

06-05-08   From my own experience, i would look at: rega r1 nht classi ...   Rar1

06-05-08   Somebody posted a pair of totem model 1s at a screaming deal ...   Ablang

06-05-08   The nola mini's might be a little hard to find as they're no ...   Cleaneduphippy

06-05-08   Triangle comete es should sound pretty good.   Grinnell

06-05-08   Ascend acoustics cmt-340 se with shipping for about $600. 3 ...   Bluelake

06-05-08   Proac 1sc, used. great sound, great value.   Tiger

06-05-08   For your consideration, the gr-research neo-2x http://www.a ...   Shel2n

06-05-08   Given that you don't play loud and value transparency, imagi ...   Arni

06-05-08   What is the size and configuration of the room? what is your ...   Buscis2

06-05-08   It depends on the sound you want, the music you listen to an ...   Palmerston

06-05-08   Buscis2: that's a good question about the room dimensions. ...   Rebbi

06-06-08   Okay:room dimensions, approximately: 8 ft. ceiling, 15 feet ...   Rebbi

06-06-08   Magnepan mmg's. they have a great return policy, and are on ...   Macdadtexas

06-06-08   O.k. that's not too small. i would imagine that the speaker ...   Buscis2

06-06-08   Wow, thanks for the response. yes, there will be some room d ...   Rebbi

06-06-08   I strongly second the suggestion of going with danny richie' ...   Ehider

06-06-08   Hi rebbi. the manufacturer is "triangle". they are ...   Buscis2

06-06-08   Hi rebbi: a question to run by the wife ... will these spea ...   Rar1

06-06-08   Hi, rar1, tell me more about the rega r1 or r3. i went to h ...   Rebbi

06-06-08   There are lots of people who like the triangle speakers. th ...   Bud_h

06-07-08   Do you like yellow...here is a great buy. http://cls.audiog ...   Shoe

06-07-08   Quad 12l - well rounded and smooth sound quad 11l - if you c ...   Knownothing

06-07-08   Turns out there's a local dealer here who carries totem. i'l ...   Rebbi

06-08-08   Consider triangle titus or comete. they match your requireme ...   Mapman

06-08-08   If you can find them used, taylor taylo reference or mini-re ...   Aggielaw

06-08-08   Hang on until you find a used pair of rega r3's for 500 or s ...   Clbone

06-08-08   Hi rebbi: rega quality is there. they design and manufactu ...   Rar1

06-08-08   I see a lot of enthusiasm for the triangles and totems. i'm ...   Rebbi

06-08-08   I've always liked totem when i've heard them as well. they ...   Mapman

06-08-08   Oh, you're in austin. that's where i first heard primaluna ...   Knownothing

06-08-08   Usher s520 is a lot of fun for not much money at all. give ...   Midnitemick

06-08-08   Thank you all for your enormous help. you've pointed me towa ...   Rebbi

06-10-08   By the way rebbi. if you really wanna' sound like the french ...   Buscis2

06-10-08   Hi, ed, lol! well, i'll have to give your pronunciation tips ...   Rebbi

06-10-08   Never heard a pair of dynaudio's set up properly that i didn ...   Mapman

06-10-08   Dyanaudio audience are great with the proper amp and placeme ...   Knownothing

06-11-08   Yes, the dynaudio's were at audio systems. it seems that the ...   Rebbi

06-11-08   Addendum about the triangles: i'd emailed upscale audio abou ...   Rebbi

06-11-08   Upscale's description is accurate regarding triangles except ...   Mapman

06-11-08: Buscis2
"Sonic preferences: I value transparency and imaging/soundstage. Bass should be accurate above all, as opposed to chest-pounding powerful".

Rebbi, you'll note your above statement. THAT is the reason I suggested the Triangles. YOU described the sound YOU wanted.

That is Triangle to the letter.

There are hundreds of great speakers available. I mean really great speakers. However, try to keep in mind REQUIREMENTS vs. preferences....

You NEED close to wall. You NEED efficiency. You NEED room dampening. If you don't use the above as minimum requirements, it won't make a bit of difference what the nametag says. Ultimately the sound will be less than desirable. Room acoustics could make a pocket radio sound fulfilling.

Also, and with all due respect, I disagree with a "pretty extended" or "sizzly" or "bright" definition being used in conjunction with the Triangle line. If the high frequency is being considered (in my terms) "overly significant", it is more than likely the speaker simply exposing a problem upstream IE: Bad AC, Impedance mismatches, Vibration issues, etc.

In general terms..... A speaker that is "extended" in any area of the frequency range, will have difficulty projecting imaging in a proper, balanced perspective. Triangle imaging is virtually holographic. With a 91db efficiency in that sized room, your amplification will feel like it's vacation.

Last but not least.... Room acoustics. Otherwise..... Don't blame the equipment. :>)



Buscis2  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


06-11-08   Btw, the heliade es were a "class "b" $$$&quo ...   Buscis2

06-11-08   Agree with buscis2. triangle high end is not harsh, just ve ...   Mapman

06-11-08   Well, i got to listen to totems and ushers today! i heard b ...   Rebbi

06-11-08   The "out-of-the-box" experience you had with the t ...   Tvad

06-11-08   I haven't heard totems for quite a while but recall loving t ...   Mapman


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