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  Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil
I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-21-08
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09-23-09   Undertow my dcr guage puts the vintage at .3 to .4ohm (supp ...   Volleyguy

09-23-09   This is going to take a little while to figure out. the due ...   Volleyguy

09-23-09   As long as the laminate core is used below a certain frequen ...   Face

09-24-09   Face there is for sure more bass out of the duelund. to me ...   Volleyguy

09-25-09   Frederik/duelund you guys must be getting confident? or you ...   Volleyguy

09-26-09   Irish65 why are you selling off never used duelund parts? w ...   Volleyguy

09-26-09   Irish65 it would be nice for you to post your thoughts on ...   Volleyguy

09-27-09   Volleyguy, the duelund's that were never used was because i ...   Irish65

09-27-09   Correction. i put two 6.8 paralleled not in series. thanks f ...   Irish65

09-28-09   Other duelund inductor is here. nice to have a full duelund ...   Volleyguy

09-29-09   I received the cast 0.56uf caps for my preamp and installed ...   Ait

09-29-09   Ait i should check to see what my amp runs at voltage wise ...   Volleyguy

10-01-09   I'm curious to hear your opinion of the jensens, and i may w ...   Ait

10-01-09   Ait i will let you know on the jensen's. they are for sure p ...   Volleyguy

10-02-09   Ait, iirc, jensen copper foil paper tube style caps ar ...   Face

10-06-09   I suspect the jensen is only available up to 1uf maybe after ...   Volleyguy

10-06-09   Thank you very much to the people following this thread who ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-06-09   Well guys did you get to hear the speakers? very curious wha ...   Volleyguy

10-07-09   I have just finished running the supratek preamp for 4 strai ...   Ait

10-07-09   Ait great post. that was the regular mundorf supreme's not ...   Volleyguy

10-07-09   After reading ait's post i got my butt in gear and installed ...   Volleyguy

10-07-09   Yes, those were the regular supremes, which i considered a b ...   Ait

10-07-09   I had installed the duelund vsf and was shocked at how much ...   Volleyguy

10-09-09   Perhaps it is also worthwhile to consider, that not only did ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-09-09   So what is the status on duelund's new cast resistors? when ...   Face

10-09-09   They are ready.   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-09-09   I received my new cast resistors and will report back when i ...   Irish65

10-10-09   Duelund i for sure can not argue on the goals of recreating ...   Volleyguy

10-12-09   Here's a little trick i found for improving the sound of the ...   Ait

10-12-09   If you're interested in why small value bypass caps work, ch ...   Ait

10-12-09   Ait tony did say that the vishay's did help all caps except ...   Volleyguy

10-12-09   I just finished listening for 4 hours or so, a large part of ...   Ait

10-13-09   Volleyguy, steen did sign of on the cast. they were the onl ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-15-09   Duelund i can not argue with that (devoid of false detail) ...   Volleyguy

10-15-09   Volleguy, if i understand ait correctly, it's a question if ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-15-09   Well, duelund, i'd like to skip the equalizer, but the speak ...   Ait

10-16-09   I finally got the nerve(and funds) to buy a pair of duelund ...   Sherod

10-16-09   Ait, i completely understand, if it didn't come across in m ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-21-09   Duelund so i take that to mean steen liked the cast better o ...   Volleyguy

10-21-09   Volleyguy, yes he did, like them better, that is.   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-21-09   Attn: duelund any chance of making the vsf coppers in a ...   Sherod

10-22-09   there shouldn't be any comparison, there wasn't here at leas ...   Face

10-22-09   Sorry face what i meant by that is yes there was no compari ...   Volleyguy

10-22-09   Running all low res caps on one channel. in the amp jensen c ...   Volleyguy

10-22-09   Volleyguy, "i think jensen would be a much better choi ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

10-23-09   Actually, i'm now running the cast in my preamp and a combin ...   Ait

10-23-09: Volleyguy
Ait

Your comment on the bass on CAST. I would not argue at all. My speakers were known to be bass shy. So the CAST were tailor made. I do not think they overstate the bass though. My feeling (like Steen said) is that all other caps resonate high freq.. CAST do not resonate at all that I can find. So no high freq is added so seems like more bass. I agree with you but you might want to try a VSF after the CAST. I have done this in the tweeters and really like it. The VSF have all the tonality and do resonate somewhat. I find the CAST more demanding on upstream components and source material. VSF is a very forgiving part. Technically not as good as CAST but works for me.

I expect to always use a combination. By the way the Jensen is along the same lines as the CAST.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


10-23-09   No way i can fit a vsf into the eq/buffer amp. it is very sm ...   Ait

10-23-09   Volleyguy, got your comments about cast and then vsf in ser ...   Daz_bike

10-23-09   I just want to be 1000   Stevecham


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