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I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

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05-21-08
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08-24-09   At around 5-7 hours now and i took out the north creek induc ...   Volleyguy

08-25-09   Now at around 10+ hours. when the duelund went in the speak ...   Volleyguy

08-26-09   03-12-09: dgarretson you will have even more shocking result ...   Phildsp

08-26-09   Merlin vsm is a two-way with a second-order crossover-- one ...   Dgarretson

08-26-09   For large values in the the lf circuit, you can probably get ...   Face

08-26-09   Face have you tried this new jensen? we may have a new #3 ...   Volleyguy

08-26-09   No, the largest value i could find is 1uf, which is too smal ...   Face

08-26-09   Face this was an issue to me as well except in the 500c. (w ...   Volleyguy

08-27-09   Thanks for the answers guys. yeah, maybe that's the best pl ...   Phildsp

08-27-09   Phildsp that is one thing we all have to do is figure the b ...   Volleyguy

08-27-09   in my experience, it's very close. cast's are a little more ...   Face

08-27-09   I have often heard the difference from vintage to modern tub ...   Volleyguy

08-27-09   Years ago while upgrading my dunlavy sc4's the first thing i ...   Theaudiotweak

08-28-09   I also feel that when possible, a single cap is the best sol ...   Face

08-31-09   Jimmy has done it again. i think he wanted to make sure the ...   Volleyguy

08-31-09   The duelund wpio inductor is here. as with all duelund prod ...   Volleyguy

08-31-09   Not to get off topic but i see dueland will be at the rmaf t ...   76doublebass

08-31-09   Volleyguy, glad you took the plunge with the duelund induct ...   Irish65

08-31-09   I would cost me over $5700 to replace all my series inductor ...   Face

08-31-09   That's a compelling argument for a simpler crossover or perh ...   Dgarretson

09-01-09   Nice irish65 i would expect with duelund tradition you will ...   Volleyguy

09-01-09   Irish65, i'll give the short version. we are using a new tu ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

09-01-09   76doublebass, we are sharing a room with the kaiser kawero ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

09-01-09   Fredrick, does it use the same leads as your other resistors ...   Face

09-01-09   From what i read, carbon composition resistors are the noisi ...   Ait

09-01-09: Duelund_coherent_audio
Face,

Yes unless otherwise specified.

Duelund_coherent_audio  (Answers | This Thread)


09-01-09   Ait, i am addicted to tx2575 in electronics and believe it t ...   Dgarretson

09-01-09   That's what i've heard about duelunds, and i fully intend to ...   Ait

09-02-09   Ait: certainly not, but for the sake of not publishing too ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

09-02-09   They're very transparent and don't have a sonic signature li ...   Face

09-02-09   Thanks irish65 on the duelund inductor. i know you hold the ...   Volleyguy

09-03-09   Sorry guys i did not mean to stop the resistor talk.   Volleyguy

09-04-09   I will be installing the 3rd jensen in the one signal path. ...   Volleyguy

09-06-09   Frederik you once said that steen used (for coupling caps) ...   Volleyguy

09-06-09   Volleyguy, true, he did that untill his designs could be ma ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

09-07-09   Thanks duelund i am very excited to see what the vsf does i ...   Volleyguy

09-09-09   Just bought rubber soul on new remastered cd and am doing th ...   Volleyguy

09-11-09   My ears are just recovering from rubber soul. i forgot how b ...   Volleyguy

09-14-09   Over on a diy site a guy posted a picture of the crossover ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-14-09   I am over 100 hours on the jensen's paper copper tube caps. ...   Volleyguy

09-14-09   Again i have no idea how you can evaluate each component lik ...   Undertow

09-14-09   I made a mistake this process would not even be really " ...   Undertow

09-14-09   Acoustics, by the way this plays a huge part in what your he ...   Undertow

09-14-09   Undertow yes you are correct. i just could not afford to do ...   Volleyguy

09-16-09   The inductor is a very overlooked part in my mind. set had ...   Volleyguy

09-17-09   Buying a second one now? :)   Face

09-17-09   Face already ordered. my gut feel is that the cast would b ...   Volleyguy

09-22-09   Differences from north creek to duelund the duelund is dark ...   Volleyguy

09-22-09   So then north creek on the woofers, duelund on the mids and ...   Undertow

09-22-09   Have you measured the two different inductor's dcr? how do ...   Face


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