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  Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil
I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-21-08
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06-15-09   are any of you going to try quicksilver gold contact enhanc ...   Hifisoundguy

06-15-09   Duelund copper hook up wire is here as well as mundorf solde ...   Volleyguy

06-15-09   I recently received a pair of 60uf vsf's and they had an int ...   Face

06-15-09   Face 60uf! that must have been a special order? have you ho ...   Volleyguy

06-15-09   I am going to order a vsf .047 (400v) and jensen .022 copper ...   Volleyguy

06-15-09   Yes, they were special order, they are being used in series ...   Face

06-15-09   My goodness! 60uf duelunds! are they the size of a football? ...   Sherod

06-15-09   Duelund makes any size, including custom... but if its not s ...   Undertow

06-16-09   Here's a duelund 44 uf vsf cap next to a 51/2" scanspea ...   Halcro

06-16-09   I just put a 2.2uf vsf copper in my mini-monitors and these ...   Sherod

06-16-09   Face the first caps i put in were sonicaps compared to the ...   Volleyguy

06-17-09   Volleyguy, we hate wasting money too on crossover parts... t ...   Hifisoundguy

06-17-09   I can say inductors are wayyyy more complicated than dcr and ...   Volleyguy

06-18-09   A heavy hitting cap review oming. pretty well the best of th ...   Volleyguy

06-18-09   I may have egg on my face. i swithced amps to see how the i ...   Volleyguy

06-18-09   I read once on the net a guy joking about not taking apart a ...   Volleyguy

06-18-09   Resonance and horns do not go well together. i can see why t ...   Volleyguy

06-19-09   Its called "hearing whats really upstream now" i ...   Undertow

06-19-09   Just ordered a duelund wpio inductor. i just have to hear ...   Volleyguy

06-19-09   Undertow, if you have a cap in your lf, what brand is it?   Mingles

06-19-09   Undertow you might be right. that is why i kept several diff ...   Volleyguy

06-19-09   Undertow from someone on the board. i checked into it and ...   Volleyguy

06-19-09   Mingles, truth is a cap is in "parallel" for my lo ...   Undertow

06-19-09   And volleyguy back to your issue… high voltage.. remember th ...   Undertow

06-19-09   Volleyguy, that explains the 1 pc. inductor order that just ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

06-19-09   Sorry duelund i am sure you will get another mate to the i ...   Volleyguy

06-19-09   Undertow i have heard that about vintage. the voltage used t ...   Volleyguy

06-19-09: Face
Where do you have an autoformer, in the HF circuit? Is there any schematics/plans out there to replace it with other parts instead? I wouldn't imagine an one-off autoformer being cheap at all.

My Tannoy's originally came with an autoformer, but I eventually replaced it with a resistor and inductor...and now it even measures flatter.

Face  (System | Answers | This Thread)


06-20-09   Face the autoformer is a step down voltage change as i unde ...   Volleyguy

06-22-09   In looking for set amp info i stumbled across this site. ht ...   Volleyguy

06-22-09   Peter qvortrup (audio note) rates amps on a 8 point from -2 ...   Volleyguy

06-23-09   If you have high sensitivity speakers, my personal preferenc ...   Quoc

06-23-09   Thanks quoc i will check into that.   Volleyguy

06-24-09   I am frustrated and confused. this is not what i expected ...   Volleyguy

06-24-09   Break-in time for the quicksilver gold tweak will be differe ...   Hifisoundguy

06-24-09   The moniker quicksilvergurl is as yet unclaimed.   Dgarretson

06-24-09   I see tony has updated his site. a couple noted changes mu ...   Volleyguy

06-25-09   I am looking into possible reasons why the vintage inductor ...   Volleyguy

06-26-09   Checking on whether to get new amp or not. i am very much le ...   Volleyguy

06-30-09   I have just ordered a jensen paper (630v) in tube copper cap ...   Volleyguy

07-05-09   Expectations of couling caps. the vintage ero fol ii's .022 ...   Volleyguy

07-12-09   Parts connexion is running the sale for another month so i w ...   Volleyguy

07-13-09   For those interested in the comparisons.. i have now been ab ...   Undertow

07-18-09   Cast are the real deal, more to come later. ;)   Face

07-18-09   As the thread moves into the rarefied air of cast, it would ...   Dgarretson

07-18-09   Reference 3a has both the vsf copper and cast in stock. i'm ...   Sherod

07-18-09   Face looking forward to what you have to say. i find the vsf ...   Volleyguy

07-18-09   Sorry, the vsf was a little "more" expensive than ...   Sherod

07-19-09   Dgarretson, well, i've got some cases where the manufacture ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

07-19-09   Here's my quick impression. the cast are the best caps i've ...   Face


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