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  Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil
I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-21-08
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05-09-09   I am going to finish off the crossover build permanent. any ...   Volleyguy

05-09-09   I use .5-.75" mdf, zip ties and/or hot glue. drill h ...   Face

05-09-09   Dear volleyguy, congratulations on getting ready to fini ...   Davidpritchard

05-09-09   Thanks guys david $800 hook up wire! to me confusing i did ...   Volleyguy

05-09-09: Sherod
Wire is an important part of the equation, but $800.00 seems substantially over-kill. Is this wire on the Dueland web site?
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05-10-09   I agree that wire is important. i used vampire internal spea ...   Halcro

05-10-09   The duelund hookup wire is listed at partsconnexion. the due ...   Davidpritchard

05-10-09   Hmmm i am going to have to try some of that duelund hook up ...   Volleyguy

05-10-09   My klipsch have the normal lamp cord gauge what guage is tha ...   Volleyguy

05-10-09   Also i have a in series inductor of .245mh in the tweeter ci ...   Volleyguy

05-11-09   Hi david, i bought the vampire wire from john at the cable c ...   Halcro

05-11-09   For inductors, check out alpha core/goertz.   Face

05-11-09   We need some guys who have tried plastic free. dgarretson ca ...   Volleyguy

05-11-09   Dear volleyguy and friends, concerning the inductor quest ...   Davidpritchard

05-12-09   Hope you get some answers david. i too am waiting on the sil ...   Volleyguy

05-12-09   I use audioquest dragon cables for hookup wire so the duelun ...   Glmccall

05-14-09   Talked to partsconnexion today and am just getting duelund c ...   Volleyguy

05-14-09   Congratulations on the duelund wire purchase. how many feet ...   Davidpritchard

05-14-09   I "hope" to notice a difference. i was a mid fi st ...   Volleyguy

05-15-09   I'm rebuilding a set of infinity rsiib speakers with externa ...   Ait

05-15-09   Ait, let us know how that cardas litz works out for you. ...   Sherod

05-15-09   Ait the duelund cotton concerned you? do you mean from a sho ...   Volleyguy

05-15-09   Volleyguy, load up your speakers in a van or truck and tak ...   Sherod

05-16-09   Volley, the idea of oil-soaked cotton resting on my hardwood ...   Ait

05-16-09   Just to clarify, the cable is "baked" for several ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

05-16-09   I used the 14ga to wire the woofers when i rebuilt the cross ...   Ckorody

05-16-09   Ait do you really think duelund (or anyone) could sell a wir ...   Volleyguy

05-16-09   Ckorody i assume you mean duelund wire? that seems to be due ...   Volleyguy

05-16-09   Volleyguy, baked means that the oil impregnation happens un ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

05-17-09   So the oil polymerizes? like a drying oil (e.g. linseed)? or ...   Ait

05-17-09   Volley - yes i mean duelund wire. i cut some cover back to ...   Ckorody

05-17-09   I"ve had no problems with the duelund 2.0 silver wire. ...   Irish65

05-17-09   Irish65 you are just the guy i need to talk too! is it co ...   Volleyguy

05-17-09   Volleyguy, i use the 2.0 silver wire. some silver wire that ...   Irish65

05-17-09   Irish65 yes the cast vs. vsf is a big difference at double t ...   Volleyguy

05-17-09   Volleyguy, for me the additional cost was well worth the pr ...   Irish65

05-17-09   Irish65 please keep us posted on your electronics cap test. ...   Volleyguy

05-18-09   Irish65 the north creek inductors how do they compare to m ...   Volleyguy

05-18-09   Volleyguy, the north creek inductors i like very much. i lik ...   Irish65

05-18-09   Thanks a ton irish65. i have a parallel inductor on the twe ...   Volleyguy

05-19-09   Volleyguy, i will say this. if you purchased the north cree ...   Irish65

05-19-09   I would not bother if it's in parallel with your tweeter. ...   Face

05-21-09   I did call north creek today. they have not called back. i h ...   Volleyguy

05-21-09   Irish65 inductors do they work as north creek says the low ...   Volleyguy

05-22-09   whatever speaker crossover part you change out you need to ...   Hifisoundguy

05-22-09   Just a heads up, madisound finally lowered their prices on c ...   Face

05-23-09   Face, have you heard the standard mundorf supremes in compar ...   Ait

05-23-09   I have a pair of mundorf s/o here and imo they don't hold a ...   Face

05-23-09   Interesting, i may have to try them some day in my infinitie ...   Ait

05-23-09   Talked to north creek on the phone about inductors. hystere ...   Volleyguy


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