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  Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil
I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

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05-21-08
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10-24-08   Volleyguy, did dueland give you any idea of approximate ti ...   Sherod

10-25-08   Duelund did say this is a quote from an e-mail "the ca ...   Volleyguy

10-25-08   If you're not happy after a week with the cast on the mids, ...   Sherod

10-25-08   Sherod i have vsf for the mids and a set of cast for the twe ...   Volleyguy

10-25-08   Break in hey jude starting to open up (cast) i can easily t ...   Volleyguy

10-25-08   Volleyguy, congrats on those casts, we should start a club. ...   Stormen

10-25-08   Halcro, my casts seemed to get better and better over a cou ...   Stormen

10-25-08   Everything running without a glitch until duelund went into ...   Volleyguy

10-25-08   Well at least no damage to the speakers or the caps. hooked ...   Volleyguy

10-26-08   Have the duelund's in vsf in midrange and the linn klout/kai ...   Volleyguy

10-27-08   Glad to hear your vsf duelund caps are coming on song volley ...   Halcro

10-27-08   Halcro nice system. the gentleman i bought my lp12 from boug ...   Volleyguy

10-27-08   Volleyguy, i agree completely that plastic should be avoide ...   Stormen

10-27-08   Volleyguy, i had a kebschull valve pre-amp immediately befor ...   Halcro

10-28-08   Stormen and in the midrange? i am out looking for another v ...   Volleyguy

10-29-08   Volleyguy, running 2 way right now, so should have read woo ...   Stormen

10-29-08   Yes i did. i read too much before doing mine. my daughter ...   Volleyguy

11-01-08   I think i found the problem in the vintage amp. the one an ...   Volleyguy

11-01-08   I did find out the cap runs from the 12ax7 low level (phono ...   Volleyguy

11-01-08   Don't worry about a part that doesnt' measure 'exactly' as m ...   Magfan

11-01-08   Magfan the part that smoked (the capacitor) was the only new ...   Volleyguy

11-01-08   I'd sure find out! how long had it been on when it 'smoked' ...   Magfan

11-02-08: Wavetrader
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11-02-08   Thanks wavetrader i am going to go there. i did see a pic a ...   Volleyguy

11-03-08   Thanks for the help i did find the cap is a 100uf 100v elect ...   Volleyguy

11-03-08   Since vinyl is my main source any suggestions. i find the fi ...   Volleyguy

11-06-08   Sorry guys no camparisions from cast and vsf yet. looking fo ...   Volleyguy

11-11-08   Not attempting to bring this thread back to life, but i foun ...   Undertow

11-17-08   I will check it out for sure undertow. i feel not ready to ...   Volleyguy

11-19-08   Will be able to test caps soon with at least 4 different vin ...   Volleyguy

11-21-08   Jody/volleyguy, before you "lose you mind over vintage, ...   Dgarretson

11-21-08   Sorry dave they will be mailed within one hour. i "real ...   Volleyguy

11-21-08   What size are the mundorfs? supreme or supreme silver oil? t ...   Undertow

11-21-08   Mundorf supreme 10uf mundorf supreme 3.3uf mundorf supreme 2 ...   Volleyguy

11-21-08   Sorry forgot to say thanks dave. i was never going to keep ...   Volleyguy

11-21-08   Volleyguy, thanks for checking out the caps & for returning. ...   Dgarretson

11-22-08   Dave the "losing my mind over vintage" is what fee ...   Volleyguy

11-23-08   All the mundorf caps are for sale very cheap on e-bay. inclu ...   Volleyguy

11-24-08   Volleyguy, i must say, i experienced a huge leap in quality ...   Stormen

11-24-08   I too am running total solid state and the duelunds are a re ...   Halcro

11-25-08   Stormen and halcro i will give what i think is possible. ...   Volleyguy

11-25-08   Volleyguy, you can do much better than a lp12....especially ...   Halcro

11-25-08   Halcro on my linn ss the lp12 blows away the cd player. my l ...   Volleyguy

11-26-08   Well now i'm completely confused? are you saying that the li ...   Halcro

11-26-08   Halcro i am somewhat confused myself. the tubes make the cd ...   Volleyguy

11-27-08   Have two (new) old fishers here one x101 and a 500c. the x10 ...   Volleyguy

11-29-08   nichicon electrolytics from michael percy is your best bet ...   G_24

11-29-08   G_24 thanks i never hear people talk much about electrolyti ...   Volleyguy

12-03-08   Put the duelund vsf's into the tweeter caps (which is all th ...   Volleyguy

12-06-08   I can't believe i read the whole thing! ok, i skipped over s ...   Danmyers


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