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  Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil
I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-21-08
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08-14-08   Klipsch used to be a high end company though undertow. 30 ye ...   Volleyguy

08-14-08   I believe the guy you speak of is on this site, and on anoth ...   Undertow

08-14-08   Realistic priced for the khorns? dirt cheap might be another ...   Volleyguy

08-14-08   I agree the less passive components the better, and also the ...   Undertow

08-14-08   My feeling exactly on the crossover parts. (fewer the better ...   Volleyguy

08-14-08   Put ss back on to eval with it as well.   Volleyguy

08-14-08   Vintage caps and ss on the one speaker is the thing of night ...   Volleyguy

08-15-08   Need help please tube guys. i installed the linn ss amps ba ...   Volleyguy

08-15-08   Some theorize that the great sound of some vintages gears ma ...   Dgarretson

08-15-08   The capacitor that has been replaced runs from the output tu ...   Volleyguy

08-15-08   Dgarretson could it be those hand made (wad of gum) capacito ...   Volleyguy

08-15-08   Mundorf supreme's are being ordered for testing and one of t ...   Volleyguy

08-18-08   It would seem that the duelund would have more effect with s ...   Undertow

08-18-08   Undertow you could be right as bryston was another horrible ...   Volleyguy

08-18-08   Mundorf supreme caps are in. i will be installing tonight. ...   Volleyguy

08-18-08   This is first few moments of impression of mundorf supreme i ...   Volleyguy

08-18-08   Sound is slower for sure and no even close to as "life& ...   Volleyguy

08-19-08   The hours in this breakin are not going to be as fun as with ...   Volleyguy

08-19-08   Or buy the clarity cap mr's... they beat them all from what ...   Undertow

08-19-08   Undertow i will let you try that one and report back. i hav ...   Volleyguy

08-19-08   Volleyguy i would almost give you my own personal money bac ...   Undertow

08-19-08   I have tried the clarity mr by the way... so i did report ba ...   Undertow

08-19-08   I prefer to not sound like i am going nuts but maybe that is ...   Volleyguy

08-19-08   Tonight i am going to pull out the mundorf and do a burn in ...   Volleyguy

08-21-08   could these new vtv silver foil in oil caps be the new king ...   Hifisoundguy

08-21-08   Hifisoundguy nope. and i think they already went right back ...   Undertow

08-21-08   Hifisoundguy i had seen those ones too did not know they wer ...   Volleyguy

08-21-08   Volleyguy you answered your own question... if you believe ...   Undertow

08-21-08   Undertow how does clarity with th mr address the speed diff ...   Volleyguy

08-21-08   Maybe a little humiliation here is needed. i put back in t ...   Volleyguy

08-21-08   After 10 hours the mundorf's lose crazy bass. i find the m ...   Volleyguy

08-22-08   Volleyguy again the clarity mr is super fast, linear, balanc ...   Undertow

08-22-08   Undertow i do believe that the clarity is very good. i just ...   Volleyguy

08-22-08   I get what your saying.. but i think you just have not tried ...   Undertow

08-22-08   I can't wait to hear your impression of duelund's. do you ...   Volleyguy

08-22-08   Undertow i do have a friend who is going to come over when d ...   Volleyguy

08-22-08   Duelunds vs. clarity cap mr size for size.. well i know you ...   Undertow

08-22-08   Has anyone tried penta labs teflon caps yet? http://www.cust ...   Hifisoundguy

08-22-08   Hifisoundguy /nope once again :-) they look interesting.. fl ...   Undertow

08-22-08   I am getting a handle on the mundorf vs. vintage. vintage/d ...   Volleyguy

08-23-08   How about this: i have been reading this thread for weeks (o ...   Ait

08-23-08: G_24
Volleyguy does love his Klipsch Lascala speakers and just like so many of us who enjoy our speakers as well and want to maximize their performance, I have enjoyed reading these escapades. I don't believe that the very best speakers are either crossoverless or active. There are so many wonderful manufacturers of speakers that use crossovers and so these issues should be addressed. Does it always mean that if you have less then it is absolutely better?
G_24  (Answers | This Thread)


08-23-08   Ait yes the thread has been wayyyy longer than i ever thoug ...   Volleyguy

08-23-08   Ait this is a quote from a linn website with a well respect ...   Volleyguy

08-24-08   Could really use some help guys. i am really thrilled with ...   Volleyguy

08-24-08   One thing is the thread will be coming to an end soon as onc ...   Volleyguy

08-24-08   Did anyone try duelund graphite resistors in their xover? th ...   Dgarretson

08-25-08   Dgarretson i have heard (but not tried) that they are a no ...   Volleyguy

08-25-08   I use them, bang for the buck is through the roof. got thi ...   Stormen

08-25-08   Stormen while your here i sure could use some advice on indu ...   Volleyguy


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