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Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil

I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire. I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps. There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance) In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me) So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most. 1 The caps are 30 years old and 2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent. Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me. So sound Record is Let it Be (Beatles) The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus. Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack. different lp Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working. All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting! Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense. For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice? When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn) The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components. The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me. Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread) 05-21-08

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Click title to read one, or click date to read all below it. 02-04-11   Your saying you have duelunds on the tweeters already? if so ...   Undertow 02-05-11   Undertow, thank you for your reply, and i apologize for the ...   Reynolds853 02-05-11   John, that being your experience with the inductors i would ...   Irish65 02-05-11   A cheap experiment might be to just pot the stock inductors ...   Ait 02-05-11   Ait, i was going to mention that also but the 3m product to ...   Irish65 02-05-11   Correction of my last post. it should say" while your a ...   Irish65 02-05-11   Irish and ait, thank you both for your replies and for your ...   Reynolds853 02-06-11   Irish, you can buy potting epoxy in bulk for bigger jobs at ...   Ait 02-06-11   Ait, you and i think alike in that regard but i don't think ...   Irish65 02-06-11   Greetings, i've been following this thread, checking in ever ...   Rfogel8 02-06-11   Ait and irish, thank you for your suggestions regarding the ...   Reynolds853 02-06-11   There are a lot of manufacturers, i've used mg chemicals and ...   Ait 02-06-11   John, the potting compound i was referring to was the 3m dp ...   Irish65 02-06-11   Rfogel8, the mundorf silver/oil caps and goertz 12awg coppe ...   Irish65 02-06-11   John, ait gives good advice with sourcing out the vacuum pu ...   Irish65 02-06-11   I have used a kitchen pressure cooker hooked to a reasonable ...   Ronnjay 02-06-11   John i agree with irish65 in a big way. i have been away aw ...   Volleyguy 02-07-11   Volleyguy, you are a perfect example of what i was saying t ...   Irish65 02-07-11   Roger have you doped any inductors with cascade audio v-blo ...   Theaudiotweak 02-07-11   tom, i've been meaning to get up with you. i have used the ...   Irish65 02-07-11   Roger, as you know there is a big benefit in hard coupling ...   Theaudiotweak 02-07-11   May duelund comment here on the possible benefit of doping a ...   Theaudiotweak 02-07-11   Irish65, thanks for your response. it was pretty much what ...   Rfogel8 02-07-11   I want to thank each of you again for the help you have give ...   Reynolds853 02-07-11   John, i understand more clearly now that you have explained ...   Irish65 02-08-11   Rfog18, because your inductors are in series with the tweet ...   Irish65 02-08-11   Reynolds853 not to throw a monkey in the wrench or is it the ...   Undertow 02-08-11   By the way i have a pair of 1.0 uf clarity cap mr's in excel ...   Undertow 02-08-11   Undertow, i have used the jupiter ht and think they are a v ...   Irish65 02-08-11   Irish, thank you for your reply. i did not take your sugge ...   Reynolds853 02-08-11   Irish65, yep, i'm using a .22mh inductor on the tweeter, th ...   Rfogel8 02-10-11   Irish65 i am going to order a duelund tweeter inductor. aft ...   Volleyguy 02-10-11   Bob, if a .665mh inductor works best then i would get that ...   Irish65 02-10-11   Volleyguy, i am not sure what gauge inductor you currently ...   Irish65 02-11-11   I am ordering just one wpio. that way if it is not good dcr ...   Volleyguy 02-11-11   Volleyguy, please keep us posted with your progress regard ...   Irish65 02-11-11   All this dcr stuff i feel is very critical especially in hig ...   Theaudiotweak 02-11-11   Irish65 how much duelund silver 2.0 do you have? is it gene ...   Volleyguy 02-11-11: Volleyguy Tom I am not sure as to why I liked the Duelund over the North Creek in the woofer inductor. (foil vs. wire or resonant reasons or silk and wax paper) The Duelund by the way was VERY close to the original that was Iron core in DCR. (wax paper) So the speaker did not change character. Now going to the tweeter inductor I am going to get a lower DCR with the Duelund. Simply a much bigger guage of wire. I am not to sure though how the North Creek deals with resonant vibrations? (electronic) I know it is not vibration for mechanical reasons as it weighs a ton! As much as I have said many times about really liking Duelund products there is one I did not care for and that was there old solid copper hook up wire. (no longer in production) Tempo Electric posted here a long time ago that they did not care for the old Duelund wire wound inductor? So it does lead me to believe there is something with foil??? Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread) 02-11-11   Sorry mine is a parallel inductor. that is why i did not ch ...   Volleyguy 02-11-11   Irish65, i understand what you're saying about the "cu ...   Rfogel8 02-11-11   Sorry the way my previous thread ended. i meant to hit " ...   Rfogel8 02-11-11   Rfogel8, i thought the same thing about caps compared to in ...   Irish65 02-12-11   Irish65, thanks again for your comments. if i pursue the du ...   Rfogel8 02-13-11   Gentlemen, would a steel or aluminum enclosure be a bad ide ...   Reynolds853 02-13-11   Regarding my last questions, nevermind. i found the answer ...   Reynolds853 02-13-11   John look for materials of music in wood or metal. mdf is d ...   Theaudiotweak 02-13-11   Tom, thanks for your reply. below are a couple of the comm ...   Reynolds853 02-13-11   Okay with the help of a friend who has a large quantity of ...   Theaudiotweak 02-13-11   Tom, wow! that is a generous offer, and thank you. howeve ...   Reynolds853

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