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  Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil
I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

05-21-08
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02-15-10   Got it. sorry for the haste.   Gallant_diva

02-25-10   I have recently completed a somewhat pseudo-scientific docum ...   Carlos43

03-01-10   Been watching the olympics as they were here. undertow nic ...   Volleyguy

03-01-10   Speaking of tony gee, did you see his recent review of the a ...   Sherod

03-02-10   Sherod that is indeed high praise of the ampohm. i seem to ...   Volleyguy

03-04-10   One thing thats forgotten in this thread is transducer inter ...   Johnk

03-04-10   Johnk "since so many variables these tests to me are u ...   Volleyguy

03-04-10   Johnk that being said i do believe diy can be very time con ...   Volleyguy

03-09-10   In many hours of listening to the silver duelund wire i real ...   Volleyguy

03-10-10   Volleyguy, you have come this far on your journey why not j ...   Irish65

03-10-10   I suppose i could irish65. i am going to be ordering some m ...   Volleyguy

03-10-10   Sorry that of course should say louder not loader. time fo ...   Volleyguy

03-10-10   I just received my pair of ampohm myler-in-oil. i am going t ...   Sherod

03-15-10   I am testing the silver wired speaker vs. the vintage wired. ...   Volleyguy

03-16-10   With the lp's i traded in part of my credit bought the beatl ...   Volleyguy

03-16-10   So far, with the ampohm polyester caps, after just 48 hours ...   Sherod

03-16-10   Sherod where did you buy them from? i might have to try a p ...   Volleyguy

03-16-10   I got mine from the tube store: http://thetubestore.com/ ...   Sherod

03-16-10   Thanks sherod the tube store is only one hour from where i ...   Volleyguy

03-17-10   Just ordered the ampohm paper in oil copper type. i tried t ...   Volleyguy

03-17-10   My choice of amps right now are a completely vintage el84 or ...   Volleyguy

03-17-10   The ampohm will sound very closed-in and tight sounding for ...   Sherod

03-18-10   I have an ampohm copper installed and is in direct competiti ...   Volleyguy

03-19-10   So far in just a few hours the ampohm sounds remarkably simi ...   Volleyguy

03-19-10   Sorry should say so far not even close to the bottom end ev ...   Volleyguy

03-20-10   Volleyguy, you may have mentioned it in one of your many po ...   Irish65

03-20-10   Irish65 i will give it a try. you could be right as the (fl ...   Volleyguy

03-21-10   Well, i had waited until the 140 hour mark for the ampohm ca ...   Sherod

03-21-10   Volleyguy, the smaller gauge duelund silver wire .5 or 1.0 ...   Irish65

03-21-10   Sherod it is interesting this top end airiness. i have give ...   Volleyguy

03-22-10   I haven't tried the duelund wire, but i did wire internally ...   Sherod

03-26-10   Sherod that' good on the wire. more listening tests on the ...   Volleyguy

04-05-10: Volleyguy
Still waiting???

Parts just not here yet.

Volleyguy  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


04-06-10   Parts came in today. i am testing sound wise the more broke ...   Volleyguy

04-07-10   Volleyguy, if you'd bear with me, i would like to take issu ...   Duelund_coherent_audio

04-07-10   I agree a little "tizz" or noise can go along way ...   Theaudiotweak

04-07-10   Sorry frederik (and tom) if i have caused confusion. i assu ...   Volleyguy

04-07-10   In my confusing post what i meant was for the people who lik ...   Volleyguy

04-07-10   We agree 100% :)   Duelund_coherent_audio

04-08-10   The test i have been very excited about was to use the silve ...   Volleyguy

04-08-10   First impressions of silver wire and this is from memory of ...   Volleyguy

04-14-10   I am still assessing the duelund silver wire as speaker wire ...   Volleyguy

04-14-10   Volleyguy, silver usually takes a little longer to break in ...   Sherod

04-14-10   Sherod i have been using the silver wire that is going to g ...   Volleyguy

04-15-10   I am going to do some more listening but at this time do not ...   Volleyguy

05-03-10   Stranded copper vs. duelund silver. the duelund wire sounds ...   Volleyguy

05-03-10   Volleyguy, i think you are onto something :-) this is where ...   Irish65

05-03-10   I believe it is the commingled strands you object to, not th ...   Ait

05-04-10   Irish i agree with bottom end being very clear with tone as ...   Volleyguy

05-04-10   Another thing i am wondering is how much quieter will the du ...   Volleyguy


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