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03-15-08
I would say - oh no - paper vs plastic. most old speakers we ... Joeylawn36111
03-15-08
some say that speakers peaked in the late 60's to mid 70's ... Hifisoundguy
03-15-08
It depends on the music. for "big" music, symphoni ... Eldartford
03-15-08
A lot has been gained in the last 20 years in the area of ma ... Rodman99999
03-15-08
Thank you all. rodman i think you make some very good points ... Pedrillo
03-16-08
There are quite a few old speakers that have stood the test ... Ngjockey
03-16-08
It is a matter of preference: personally, i prefer the apog ... Mrtennis
03-16-08
Mrtennis, we seem to share this preference for planar speake ... Detlof
03-16-08
if we stick to sound quality... i'd agree with the above, ... Shadorne
03-16-08
I have wondered with great interest the reviews that the old ... French_fries
03-16-08
This always strikes me as a weird argument - that somehow ol ... Douglas_schroeder
03-16-08
Total disagree with the past having as hi a performance as m ... Johnk
03-16-08
i would take my 1974 sansui sp-5500's over anything made to ... Hifisoundguy
03-16-08
And modern violins are much better than those old stradivari ... Eldartford
03-16-08
Lol: well spoken eldartford! especially those ss powered one ... Detlof
03-16-08
I had those same sansui speakers and they are what got me in ... Rbirke
03-16-08
Eldarford- how many current violin manufactures spend two to ... Rodman99999
03-16-08
One of the big differences between today and yesterday is th ... Eee3
03-16-08
Well rodman, i do and that is why i stuck with my quad 57 an ... Detlof
03-16-08
Eldartford confuses technique with technological advancement ... Douglas_schroeder
03-16-08
Douglas_schroeder...how so? Eldartford
03-16-08
Detlof- was that the ionofane plasma tweeter? the technolo ... Rodman99999
03-16-08
Eldartford, the error in your logic is that you compare a mu ... Douglas_schroeder
03-16-08
Hi doug: this hobby is based upon subjective perception and ... Mrtennis
03-16-08
Rodman99999...you enjoy your old harley, although a new hond ... Eldartford
03-16-08
Douglas_schroeder...old volin vs new violin, apple to apple. ... Eldartford
03-16-08
I absolutely agree with your comments concerning aircraft. ... Rodman99999
03-17-08
Your ears have changed as much as the speaker has..? Nuguy
03-17-08
Like i said most who say vintage is the best performing are ... Johnk
03-17-08
Rodman99999...needle, ball, and airspeed, and the door open. ... Eldartford
03-17-08
There is some serious nostalgitis happening here. mrtennis ... Douglas_schroeder
03-17-08
There's a paradox going on here. undoubtedly modern product ... Onhwy61
03-17-08
Hi doug: my preference is based upon hours and hours of lis ... Mrtennis
03-17-08
Gentlemen: the proof of the pudding is what someone does wi ... Mrtennis
03-17-08
Eldartford(et al): i'd love to own a plane like that(it woul ... Rodman99999
03-17-08
Well rodman, i did exactly as you suggest, i don't know how ... Detlof
03-17-08
Mrtennis, bold proposition my friend! :) it's obvious you're ... Douglas_schroeder
03-17-08
Detlof- like i said: owning those quads speaks of your love ... Rodman99999
03-17-08
I would dispute that there has been much technological advan ... Ngjockey
03-18-08
To the casual observer there are not many differences in bic ... Douglas_schroeder
03-18-08
Not all loudspeaker manufacters offer just tragic cones and ... Johnk
03-18-08
Douglas schroeder, would like to hear what other speakers yo ... Pedrillo
03-18-08
Pedrillo, the principle holds true generally for any speaker ... Douglas_schroeder
03-19-08
Hi doug: my vintage system would include stacked quad 57s. ... Mrtennis
03-19-08
Douglas_schroeder question? why aren't two smaller woofers ... Pedrillo
03-19-08
Pedrillo, mathematically they may add up to the same pistoni ... Douglas_schroeder
03-19-08
I have been in the live music space for 30 years. i have wo ... Bongofury
03-19-08
Mrt, what can i say? that is an exceptional vintage speaker! ... Douglas_schroeder
03-20-08
If you listen to companies like wilson even last years model ... Chadnliz
03-20-08
Quad 57s could be driven by a 35 watt maple tree el 34 amp, ... Mrtennis
03-20-08
One of the areas where speakers have not, for the most part, ... Gbmcleod
03-21-08
In order to compare live music with a recording, it is neces ... Mrtennis
03-21-08: Rodman99999
Mrtennis- If a person attends live performances on a regular basis, it's natural to become accustomed to certain things that ARE consistant. IE: the sound stage of live venues, the SPL of live music, impact of a kick-drum, how the size and timbre of a piano(or any instrument) are perceived, How the wood of a double bass(and rosin on the bow) can be felt, the breath over the reed of a sax, the "hole in the middle" of a concert orchestra, the human singing voice especially, breaths taken, and how one can actually hear the resonance of the chest cavity in person(I could go on). As I suggested: If one were to listen to a particular music group live, then take a recording(hopefully a well engineered one) of that group's music home to play on their system: they would have a better idea if the system was accurate. That wouldn't take much aural memory at all. And yet: It's not hard to retain the sound of "live" IF you know how to listen to/focus on individual sounds/instruments. All it takes is a DESIRE to train one's ears and brain to do so. But- most are satisfied with their preferences as their references, and that's fine too. I have the benefit of access to musicians, instruments, live music and original recordings all the time. It's cost me dearly over the years to try and re-create the gestalt of live music in my home, but my system is only the vehicle to deliver what I love, and not what I love.
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03-21-08
Mrtennis-we did exactly what you propose many years ago: we ... Detlof
03-21-08
There are some other variables which make things even more d ... Douglas_schroeder
03-21-08
Was it duke ellington who said "if it sounds good, it i ... Eldartford
03-21-08
Detlof- i've been bi-amping with planars for years(tubes/to ... Rodman99999
03-21-08
Douglas- i agree with the greatest part of what you said. ... Rodman99999
03-23-08
I do want to remember that the original post was: are speake ... Gbmcleod
03-23-08
This thread is a mobius strip; flips back around and goes no ... Douglas_schroeder
03-24-08
Is it possible that musicians might disagree ? if so, the a ... Mrtennis
03-24-08
Mrt, forgive me, but we know that and you've repeatedly told ... Detlof
03-24-08
There have been many demonstrations of speaker fidelity put ... Eldartford
03-24-08
Lets look at the main trend in audio reproduction: increasi ... Mrtennis
03-29-08
I believe musicians might disagree on an orchestral recordin ... Gbmcleod
03-29-08
Gbmcleod, i agree with what you said and would like to add s ... Pedrillo
03-29-08
I think speakers that are older were built better.case in po ... Racerx322
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