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12-14-06
Rives offered to fix your speaker, but you've obviously decl ... Onhwy61
12-14-06
Hmm, interesting.. i would assume it is working and needs a ... Undertow
12-14-06
I don't agree with the comment that 'you made a poor decisio ... Justlisten
12-14-06
Most active subwoofer amps don't last long...that why the wa ... Sogood51
12-14-06
Justlisten, i would say buying gear from a comapny that is o ... Nrchy
12-14-06
to say that robyatt made a poor choice buying equipment fro ... Chadnliz
12-14-06
You sure you don't have a grounding problem? Keithr
12-14-06
Rives has been a long time member and contributor to this bo ... Jeffcott
12-14-06
"i'm at a loss to understand why rives has any more res ... Matti
12-14-06
Just my .02 cents here. if you're going to buy used, then y ... Cleaneduphippy
12-14-06
Wow you people are hard. just a week or so i read an article ... Jab
12-15-06
Excellent, jab. Fiddler
12-15-06
I have to disagree with the notion that manufacturers have n ... Honest1
12-15-06
"i have to disagree with the notion that manufacturers ... Cleaneduphippy
12-15-06
Robbyat…thank you for your post and letting others know of y ... Tnadu
12-16-06
Tnadu, let me ask you a question. at what point does a man ... Cleaneduphippy
12-16-06
I guess we need to clean up some issues here. first, we bou ... Rives
12-16-06
Tnadu: your remarks (with my compliments) are as clear and ... Jeffcott
12-16-06
thank-you rives for clearing up an issue that was a matter ... Aolmrd1241
12-17-06: Honest1
The response from Rives clears up the big question, namely, the $1600 repair cost (much of which is labor to rework the cabinet). This makes sense. The remaining question is if it's possible for someone (other than Talon/Rives)to provide / replace the buzzing transformer (or whatever) in the amp. Is the company still in business? How is their reputation for repairS? Who are they?
As someone who bought his Talons new, I am glad to hear that Rives will service them at a reasonable price for either me or whomever I sell them to.
I am a little mystified by the concern many companies have about product sold over the internet or by unauthorized dealers. How did the product get into the hands of the unauthorized dealer? If it wasn't stolen or extorted, and isn't counterfeit, they should be obligated to stand behind it. It should not be up to the consumer to have to verify that a dealer is authorized. Do you check with DeWalt to see if Home Depot is an authorized dealer before you buy a saw? The manufacturer made it, sold it, made their money, and agreed to provide warranty. How have they suffered a loss that justifies weasling out of warranty obligations? If their loss is due to loss of image because someone is turning their product from an exclusive boutique product into a commodity, I can understand that. In this case, the manufacturer should just shut off the dealer who is violating the marketing plan. Every major audio component is serialized, and the company should know who they sent each unit to. If they keep wholesaling their product to dealers who discount it, they have no right to complain.
While manufacturers have a legal right to do what's in their financial interests, so do we. We should continually publicize manufacturers who have bad attitudes toward second owners. This should drive the used price of their products downward, which will hopefully dissuade new buyers from buying their products. If companies that are openly hostile to the used market, like Theta, hear enough people say their product is great, but can't stand the depreciation when they go to sell it, maybe they will change. On the other hand, companies that treat 2d owners well (like AtmaSphere)should be rewarded with high used market prices, to encourage people to buy new without fear of losing everything.
Honest1 (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
12-17-06
Cleaneduphippy: (great username by the way!) to answer you ... Tnadu
12-18-06
Interesting topic and good discussion. anyway, was browsing ... Cleaneduphippy
12-18-06
Cleaned up - you are absolutely right that this is the condi ... Honest1
12-19-06
Well heard back from the seller, and apparently he won these ... Cleaneduphippy
12-19-06
Whoever said "the customer is always right" never ... Seandtaylor99
12-19-06
You know what i just found out from one editor of a prominen ... Rives
12-19-06
Richard (rives): i wholeheartedly agree. you are to be comme ... Essentialaudio
12-21-06
This is robyatt.i contacted the original owner he rang rives ... Robyatt
12-21-06
I see that a certain audiophile mags editor fowarded my emai ... Robyatt
12-21-06
I wish to appologise i did not mean to use the word "st ... Robyatt
12-21-06
Yeesch, settle down a little! you repaired it yourself. goo ... Distortion
12-21-06
Robyatt, you keep singing the same tune, but yer off key, yo ... Nrchy
12-21-06
Robyatt, if you bought a used ge fridge, out of warrantee, ... Johnmcelfresh
12-21-06
I missed this thread the first time through, but boy is it a ... Pmotz
12-21-06
i would like to mention here that in my past dealings with ... Aolmrd1241
12-21-06
I am surprised no one addressed the actual issue and got ans ... Matrix
12-21-06
The original owner says it is still under warrenty! i rang a ... Robyatt
12-21-06
Robyatt, have you no shame? you're whining, in public no le ... Onhwy61
12-21-06
Robyatt, i realize in your first post & combination of your ... Matrix
12-21-06
Hate to say it, but i think in this situation, it's all abou ... Cleaneduphippy
12-21-06
"the original owner says it is still under warrenty! &q ... Seandtaylor99
12-21-06
I am done with this! i repaired the sub throgh my own effort ... Robyatt
12-22-06
After all of your slander and innuendo, you changed a fuse. ... Macrojack
12-22-06
Robyatt: i think you may have missed the point. you suggest ... Jeffcott
12-22-06
Robyatt has done much to aggravate in this situation, but in ... Honest1
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