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01-23-05
I have alway thought that the b&w 801 series 2 or 3 matrix w ... Thorman
01-23-05
Von schweikert's play all music really well and can rock wit ... Snook2
01-23-05
If you want to rock, get a pair of aerial model 10ts, or a p ... Esoxhntr
01-23-05
Hi jeffsel..i know how you feel, i too was a frustrated rock ... mooner@
01-23-05
My merlin vsm-mm speakers does all music types very well,the ... Bluebull
01-23-05
For me the mcintosh xrt 22's are the end but since i own the ... Bigjoe
01-23-05: Audiobugged
Why are you a frustrated B&W Nautilis 804 owner?
What is the rest of your system?
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01-23-05
I have the following system: musical fidelity a3 pre amp rot ... Jeffsel
01-23-05
I'm a blues/rock and roll guy. i finally found happiness (an ... Jeff_jones
01-23-05
You need a couple of subs jeff...bass is the foundation upon ... Sogood51
01-23-05
Sogood, my reason for having floor standers with two woofers ... Jeffsel
01-23-05
Get a sub. art Artmaltman
01-23-05
Von schweikert vr4 gen iii hse go down to 16hz (per von schw ... Tvad
01-23-05
I second the von schweikert line. size wise the vr2 is pret ... Driver
01-23-05: Audiobugged
Sorry I was dealing with snow clean-up. Jeff, Forget the Subs, you need to get some serious wattage on those 804's! I'm playing with a took-in-trade pair of Sig 805's with Bryston 7b-st's. They Boogie with Classical, Jazz, Female Vocals, & do the ever rock w/ Rock! I used to own the Cdm-9nt's which I ran them with a Bryston 4b-st with 2 Rel Stratas. Then added the 7b-st's & sold the Rels. Bowers & Wilkins speaker like power, & 300 or more watts of clean SS power they will move to any groove!
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01-23-05
Without going on too much, i'll just say that i second the a ... Centurymantra
01-23-05
Right now i boogie and rock with klipsch cornwalls, they are ... 711smilin
01-23-05
i'm not interested in endless tweaking of cables/amplifiers/ ... Steveaudio
01-23-05: Audiobugged
Steveaudio, Jeff did mention his system =
Musical Fidelity A3 Pre Amp
Rotel 1080 Power Amp
Cary 202/200 CD
Harmonic Tech Truthlink Cables
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01-23-05
You may want to add legacy audio speakers to your audition l ... Drseid
01-23-05
I second the b&w`s like power,and lots of it.i had matrix 80 ... Timperry
01-23-05: Audiobugged
Yep Right on Tim, As those Driver like to Dance Boogie, & Move some Air. Till then Jeff you haven't even really heard what the 804's sound like till you ad the juice!
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01-23-05
Tim and audiobugged: what's wrong with 200 watts. it's at ... Jeffsel
01-23-05: Audiobugged
Jeff, Not to bash your Rotel which is great for H/T. But with the 804's for 2 channel, but it's like running a pair of Wilson Audio Watt/Puppy 7.1's with a Denon A/V Receiver. I would audition other amps, as the rest of your rig is fine. Prior to abandoning hope on the 804's, & selling them prior to ever hearing them breathe. Many B&W users make the mistake to jump, then dump, before the juice was ever pumped!
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01-23-05
I would like to stay with something in the size and shape ra ... Jeffsel
01-23-05
Audiobugged: the problem is too may variables. how much of ... Jeffsel
01-23-05: Audiobugged
The British 804 love Canadian Solid State Bryston, Classe, Sim Audio, etc. Which are less expensive then, ML, Krell, & Pass, etc. If you could squeeze a Classe CA-300/301 or CA400/401 it would open your ears! A McIntosh MC352 power amplifier, would do the trick too! Your pre-amp can be upgraded later as it isn't the boo boo that needs a bandaid, the priority is the amp I.M.H.O. There is nothing wrong with the Harmonic Tech. I.C.'s, & Classe along with Rotel is now owned by B&W. No need to drive anywhere, as your issues could all end with one carefully researched Audiogon amp purchase, & one swift Audiogon Rotel amp sale.
And yes Stamp, & Butterfly collecting would be less stressful alternatives to this hobby! But the journey to reproduce the sound of live music in your listening area, are worth the efforts of swaping, changing, & playing around till your find your a sound that comforts you after all your endeavors.
Lastly, Even if you spend 15G, or 200G on a system?
If the recording is poor on a cd to begin with, nothing will help!
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01-23-05
804's like the other nautilus speakers are too bright and th ... Cinematic_systems
01-23-05
So your solution was to spend more on your electronics than ... Cinematic_systems
01-23-05
Jeffael, listen to the reimer windrivers, 3800 for musical b ... 711smilin
01-23-05: Audiobugged
Jeff, Here is my offer as I am a man of my word, & have the disposible income to conquer. You purchased the N804's because you wanted them, no one twisted your arm. Yet now everyone if offering other speaker solutions, & not really helping the current situation. If you want to take the B&W wattage guide lines to heart, feeling that you might overdrive them sending them into an early grave.... fine? You do some web searching, & find an amp. Contact me with your choices, as I have been a B&W listener for over 17 years. Never clipped, or sent one on it's path to destruction. Again if the final amp of selection does not improve your satisfaction level on all parts. I will purchase the amp, along with both the shipping cost to you, & me, dollar for dollar!!! Genuinely, Frank
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01-23-05
I listened to the 804s several times before getting the von ... Maineiac
01-23-05
Possibly i am missing something here as to b&w and power. ha ... Valleyplastic
01-23-05
My opinion,for what it is worth.b&w speakers are "needy ... Timperry
01-24-05
No. cerwin-vegas or kenwoods used with a graphic equalizer ... Zaikesman
01-24-05
Vintage snell b, b minor or cv. Reb1208
01-24-05
Jeffsel,i agree with you on the no sub deal,you shouldnt & d ... Bigjoe
01-24-05
Thanks everyone for such a great response. i appreciate the ... Jeffsel
01-24-05
Jeffsel, this is my direct experience with the "more po ... Tvad
01-24-05
A good buddy of mine has a pair of 804's. he's powering the ... Hammergjh
01-24-05: Audiobugged
Jeff, I figured I might as well put my money where my mouth, or fingers where. Since I WAS the only one who continuely mentioned your amp being the culprit of your disappointment. I am not buying into Cinematic_systems posts as far as B&W being non-flexible, & thought my offer would make you feel less pressured to take the amp upgrade path. You are going to want to search out the pre-owned/demo route on an amp. As otherwise just like the N804's Kevlar Fst driver needs 200-500 hours of break-in. A new in the box amp, would also require 100-300 hours to Burn-in to show it's true sonic qualities. The additional power will not just add additional low-end, but will aid the mids, & highs. As for as Brightness, the 804's are somewhat forward sounding but can be tamed with the right amp.
This offer was only extended to Jeff, so thanx for all the e-mails from my Agon friends to buy everyone a new amp! Last I checked I was not the Six Million Dollar Man, however I have built many systems, each being stronger, faster, tighter, & able to reach new heights!
Are your Truth-Links Copper, or the Silver variety?
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01-24-05
Get more power. and a sub. (vs as a replacement might wo ... Artmaltman
01-24-05
Audiobugged: my truthlinks are copper and i have tara labs ... Jeffsel
01-25-05
I have to agree with audiobugged ... that rotel has got to g ... audionut@
01-25-05
High current delivery perhaps more than the amount of watts ... Timf
01-27-05
I'm jumping in very late here, but you might want to check o ... John_z
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