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12-05-02
The 2ce/2wq combo is a pretty far cry from the model 5. the ... Sdcampbell
12-05-02: Maxgain
Scott and I both like to post on these Vandersteeen questions. Scott always makes good points and knows his stuff.We have similar tastes. I have a different view on the answer to this question though. Scott is right that the 2Ce is not a 5. The thing that strikes me here is that if your budget is not in line with the 5 don't sweat the difference. A pair of 2Ce's will sound better with(you don't mention what you plan to run them with)more budget minded front end gear than the more revealing/demanding 5 or even the 3's that Scott recomends.I would rather listen to 2's with a great CD player than 5's with a lesser source. Even a pair of vandersteen 1C's and spending a bit more of that budget on the rest of your stuff(the best source you can afford)would sound better than 5's run by a less than great budget solid state integrated amp and decent but not world class CD player. Even vandersteen 1c's by themselves or with a 2Wq and even better yet two 2Wq's as Scott mentioned can be great with better fornt end stuff.
Scott makes a good point about the bass EQ for the 5, but you need to realize that to get the most from the 5 you need to place it where the mid range and highs sound best, this isn't always the best spot in your room for bass. That is why the 5's have the EQ feature, and the set up of that alone is a bit more complex. By seperating the low bass from the mids and highs using the seperate subs you get some flexability of placement that other full range speakers don't usually have. The 2Wq can be placed where it workes best,(in my case it is in the corner of the room) or where it can fit in less than ideal conditions and still not compromise the mids highs. This gives you more options and the main speakers can go where they need to go to sound their best. I can have my main speakers closer to the back wall than I would be able to without the woofer and not get boom(the low bass is filtered out of my main speakers).
As for the sound quality of the 2Ce, again I will say it isn't a 5 or a 3A Sig, but I have yet to run up against it's limits or in other words their ability to show the improvements of parts of the system up stream from them. What I am saying is that the rest of my system improves, so does the sound that comes from the 2's. As I refine everything from amps and CD players to power cords to AC outlets, to isolation devices, the 2's are there letting me hear the improvements very clearly. My point is, as I have said before in other posts, to quote myself,"speakers IS dumb", they just reproduce what you feed them. Send a great speaker an OK so-so signal and you will get an OK so-so sound back. Now take a quite good speaker and now feed it with a great signal and you can get very good sound back. By the way, the 5 will not be louder than 2Ce' with 2Wq's. The sensitivity is the same for both.
The whole point of my post is get it right from the source and work from that point. Anything you loose from the start is lost for good. Spend less on the speakers to start with and buy the best CD palyer(or TT) you can get your hands on and buy the Vandersteen that fits into that budget. Great speakers dont=a great system. Great speakers finish a great system.
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12-05-02
Hmmmm, that is an interesting response. i am starting to th ... Matchstikman
12-05-02
Sdcampbell, let me just add that buit-in active woofers in m ... Marakanetz
12-05-02
I agree with maxgain, if your front end is not up to it, you ... Judit
12-05-02
Ok, judit, roll back the clock about 30 years when i was in ... Maxgain
12-05-02
I have a small listening room and had the same concerns abou ... Rec
12-05-02
i agree with the above posts...if you can't afford the appr ... Nrenter
12-05-02
In your situation i would go with the vandersteen 2c. Bobgates
12-05-02
Nrenter is right on. i bought a pair of model 5 about 10 mon ... Sidssp
12-05-02
Thanks for all the feedback. i have alot to think about. o ... Matchstikman
12-05-02
I am using theta dreadnaught to drive my model 5 because i d ... Sidssp
12-05-02
If you could stretch your budget, i would highly recommend t ... Nti75
12-05-02
Maxgain offers a good analysis. i owned a pair of 2cis for ... Swampwalker
12-05-02
If you want to go cheap: get a set of 2ce signatures and pow ... John_l
12-05-02
Well, this is becoming a good thread with lots of relevant c ... Sdcampbell
12-05-02
This has been a big eye opener when it comes to what i want, ... Matchstikman
12-05-02
I think the 3a/2wq combo would be an excellent place to star ... Sdcampbell
12-05-02
I would like to chime in here as vandersteen products are am ... Tubegroover
12-06-02
Hi, i am a newbie audiophile who has just upgraded his el ... Pmrodier
12-06-02
Match...: many good observations above. what size is your ... Garfish
12-06-02
Garfish and john1 are saying what i am in a diffderent way. ... Maxgain
12-06-02
Garfish, my room is small, i mean very small. it is about 12 ... Matchstikman
12-06-02
Hi match..; if you're really set on the pretty big vanderst ... Garfish
12-06-02
No one seems to like the vandersteen 1c around here? if you ... Maxgain
12-06-02
Good point maxgain, re the vand. model 1 speakers. i've onl ... Garfish
12-07-02
Fwiw, my son had a pair of vandy 1's for almost 10 years whi ... Sdcampbell
12-07-02
I don't have nearly the experience of some of the other post ... Unsound
12-07-02
After using vandersteen's for a long while and going the pro ... Bigtee
12-09-02
"matchstickman", "sdcampbell" and " ... Chaskelljr2001
12-09-02
Ok guys chaskelljr2001, brings up some interesting questions ... Maxgain
12-09-02
I know that i found a very significant improvement when i we ... Swampwalker
12-09-02
Swampwalker, brings up a good point. perhaps spending some o ... Unsound
12-10-02
By all means i think that most people give up on their speak ... Maxgain
12-11-02
I agree maxgain, the 2ce/sig are very capable of showing cha ... Garfish
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