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  How old is too old ?....
Over the last year I've been updating my system,that was long over due.
Replaced a 16 year old cd player..mission DAD 7000
Hafler 110 pre..Blue Circle 3.1
Hafler DH 500...Bryston 4B ST( currently replacing again)
Various cables,too numerous to mention.
However I still have my old speakers Kef 104.2 and continue to like the sound.
These speakers are 16 years old.
My question...has technology marched on and left me and my Kefs behind?
I will replace at some time but for now I would like to keep these.
What improvement can I expect with newer speakers..a little ..alot....WOW...
Am I upgrading in the right order?
I've been told that all the upgrades ,to date,are wasted unless I replace the speakers ..VERY SOON.
Is a true statement?
Thefalls1117  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-02-02
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09-02-02   Please replace the kef speakers. please.......... they are c ...   Tok20000

09-02-02   If you can find a way to easily replace the capacitors in th ...   Sean

09-02-02   Fyi about a dozen years ago i compared, side-by-side, the t ...   Drrdiamond

09-02-02   I would ask you, did you hear an improvement when you added ...   Twl

09-02-02   Yes, there was an unbelieveable improvement. one that i woul ...   Thefalls1117

09-02-02   Tom: "my systems consistently outperform many of my fri ...   Clueless

09-02-02   Thefalls1117, glad to hear that you are enjoying your new sy ...   Pmwoodward

09-02-02   Sean, sean, sean, why did you not tell him to replace the co ...   Lou_3rd

09-02-02   First, if it ain't broke, you don't have to fix it. you like ...   Bomarc

09-02-02   Why replace the kef ? the speakers (drivers) technology did ...   6chac

09-02-02   You wouldn't by chance be looking for an excuse to change, w ...   Jvia

09-02-02   Craig, you're giving away all my secrets! by the way, you re ...   Twl

09-02-02   Ya know, i'm gettin' on in age too; when should the listener ...   Viridian

09-02-02   Jvia..you may not be tooooo far from the true. i just maybe ...   Thefalls1117

09-02-02   If you want good sound for the money, check out the meadowla ...   Twl

09-02-02   Lots of good replies here. last year i bought a set of infin ...   Beemer

09-02-02   Some people in this group might tell you i think an insecure ...   Jvia

09-02-02   Mr. bomarc, once again, makes very good sense. how many axe ...   Pbb

09-02-02   I too loved the kef104.2 as they were my first real high end ...   Hifimaniac

09-02-02: Basement
I have had also a recent expereince as this, although at a different level. The speakers I had were the items that everyone believed were the "weak point", and I would refuse to get new ones because I believed I would have to spend a lot to equal them. As it turns out, I picked up some vandies really cheap, and while they sound initailly better, I don't hear differences nearly as well to the front of my system.
Point that I see here, you don't need to upgrade your speakers to get better. You can definitely get better with better speakers, of coarse, but just because a speaker is old, does not mean it is inherently going to be bettered by a new one.
There is a lot of wisdom to sean's suggestion, being that it would seem to be an improvement without changing anything. Especially if you really like your speakers. Instead of getting different, or different and better, or different and worse and better, you just get better. It's just a step up, period, no matter how much or little.
There is no reason why there should'nt be better speakers out there (there are always better speakers, amps, etc.) There is no reason you should'nt look if you want to. For me thats what this hobby is all about. I'm not a "speaker buff", but I appreciate that some people put more into thier speakers than I do. It seems to me that there are a lot of audiophiles that put a lot more attention into their speakers and amplification, and less into their front end, and make claims that the front end makes little difference compared to the gains in the speakers. From what I can see, these are the ones that usually spend the most money. I condider that audiophiles from these two different "camps" listen for different things.

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09-02-02   mr falls; you could use this also as an excuse to go on a ...   Basement

09-02-02   Location reality..buried deep in northern ontario..canada. c ...   Thefalls1117

09-02-02   I've owned and loved several pairs of british monitors and u ...   Celtic66

09-02-02   If you have the cash for new speakers.....go crazy! speaker ...   Pardales

09-03-02   Hey keep the kef mike   Micheal

09-03-02   Interesting to see kefs compared with b&ws, which have, to m ...   Bishopwill

09-03-02   Will, just for clarification, i was suggesting that clueless ...   Twl

09-03-02   Upgrading speakers will add detail and linearity, but... yo ...   Artmaltman

09-03-02   Since you are up here in the great white north, i would whol ...   Pbb

09-03-02   16yrs is really way too old. go buy new ones immediately. ...   Seandtaylor99

04-19-03   I have this exact same dilemma. i have upgraded my electron ...   Dewinkle

04-25-03   I have the kef 107s and just, not too long ago upgraded my f ...   Moemoney

04-18-04   I have a pair of 104/2's and had them rewired and had the ca ...   jgstephenson@

08-07-04   i have had two pairs of kef 104/2's. i agree with alot abov ...   Rrodmanr

08-24-04   I upgraded to silverline sonatas. they have the warm musical ...   Hammy

08-24-04   “the silverline sonata is an outstanding bargain and one of ...   Hammy

08-28-04   I am in the same position as a few others here. upgraded the ...   hifinut@

08-28-04   Hifinut- the silverlines use all dynaudio drivers except for ...   Hammy

08-28-04   Hammy, was not familiar with the silverlines either. have lo ...   hifinut@

08-29-04   Some hifi-reviewer (sorry, don't remember his/her name) once ...   Satch

09-01-04   Hifinut- used sonata ii', are now 2500, about the original c ...   Hammy

09-03-04   Check out the angstrom obligatos.made in canada.   Thefalls1117


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