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  Two-channel is inferior to multi-channel, no?
I think that 2 channel is inferior, though, of course, my ears and reason may be mistaken.

Feedback please!

The obvious reason, I am thinking, it is that two channels are less representative of infinity (live music) than 3, 5 or 7, etc. This is the case even if the transducers, amps & speakers, and room acoustics, are perfect (dream on...) in the 2-channel mode.

In my own system, two Revel M-20s as center channel, vertically arrayed, with Revel M-50s on either side, there is the occasional CD (jazz is my thing) that sounds better in stereo, than with 5.1 processed sound, but this is rare. Most sound better with the center channel prominent (either in Dolby Standard or Music modes).

It's possible that I simply need better equipment.

But then why do I find that the best sound (in my system) is from digital sources, e.g. DVD, Blu-Ray, SACD, whether the sound reproduces music or movies. Would better equipment neutralize (and even flip) this negative comparison of stereo to multi-channel reproduction? If so, what is the explanation?

What I find in particular (for music and movies) that is that digital sources in multi-channel mode give full breath and focus to the center channel, placing this important sound component exactly where it should be: precisely in the center of the room. And giving the other channels 'room' to shine (though, in my system, given the amplification available, this should not problem).

What am I missing in theory?
Pmcneil  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

04-11-09
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04-12-09   No, at least not in my opinion. dollar for dollar i think tw ...   Unsound

04-12-09   Hi pmc neil. you might want to take a look at the "wha ...   Mmarvin19

04-12-09   It took me a while to find it but here's a previous thread ...   Timrhu

04-12-09   Most of the cd's you listen to are red book and recorded in ...   Hevac1

04-12-09   Hevac1...being "in" the band or in the audience is ...   Eldartford

04-13-09   I like both. they're so different. i admit to searching for ...   Vicdamone

04-13-09   Eldartford, i have gone to many small jazz venues and i know ...   Hevac1

04-13-09   Hevac1..."sound from everywhere" describes the &qu ...   Eldartford

04-13-09   Hevac1, this is how jazz should be enjoyed. jeff beck with ...   Shadorne

04-14-09   I have enjoyed small venues like that but in no way is that ...   Hevac1

04-14-09   Sure, they do, but in classical music for the most part. th ...   Kr4

04-14-09   Stereo, mono, 5 channels, a zillion channels, it's all an il ...   Ojgalli

04-14-09   And, don't forget that with multichannel you get a center (a ...   Eldartford

04-14-09   well what about the ambient venue energy (from behind and s ...   Shadorne

04-14-09   Shadorne...i just looked at your jeff beck video. sorry, but ...   Eldartford

04-14-09   i hear ya. but i don't have a problem with "electronic ...   Shadorne

04-15-09   Shadorne...i like the old fashoned acoustic instruments. in ...   Eldartford

04-17-09   Eldartford "a discrete center. all playback, even that ...   Kijanki

04-17-09   Kijanki...what you are hearing is the very interesting illus ...   Eldartford

04-17-09   Eldartford - i'm just trying to understand what gets better. ...   Kijanki

04-17-09   Fwiw, i have truly enjoyed front 3 channel demonstrations, b ...   Unsound

04-17-09   Kijanki...if you analyse the typical stereo signals you will ...   Eldartford

04-18-09   i'm not so sure. just like how we now hear much more inform ...   Mikelavigne

04-18-09   Mikelavigne - does center channel improve sweet spot? can y ...   Kijanki

04-18-09   not in my room (based on my personal perceptions). in norm ...   Mikelavigne

04-18-09   Question to you all? anyone here have experience with this ...   Les_creative_edge

04-18-09   Btw the gear is a harman kardon hk 3490 stereo receiver with ...   Les_creative_edge

04-18-09   My $.02: i am not a fan of adding a center with l+r info fo ...   Kr4

04-22-09   Hevec asks, "if you are in the group and it is using el ...   Vicdamone

02-28-10   Its been a very long time since i've posted here. this subje ...   Cdwallace3

03-01-10   Cdwallace3 - i'm not sure how center channel would help in m ...   Kijanki

03-01-10   Well, all other things being equal, two-channel is certainly ...   Kr4

03-01-10   "cdwallace3 - i'm not sure how center channel would hel ...   Cdwallace

03-01-10   Kal, you are correct indeed. mc has its tradeoffs when you t ...   Cdwallace

03-01-10   Cdwallace - not only that my system has potential to be unlo ...   Kijanki

03-01-10   "i know we're not talking cheap home theater but that i ...   Cdwallace

04-12-10   If the music is mastered in proper and thoughtful multi-chan ...   Les_creative_edge

04-13-10   I have mixed feelings about this... i have been using a ht ...   Scarr2

04-14-10   More thoughts, if there is only one listener sitting inside ...   Les_creative_edge

09-23-10   "the obvious reason, i am thinking, it is that two chan ...   Coltrane1

01-17-11   I have had some pretty expensive two channel systems in my p ...   Avgoround

01-17-11   you offer that same specious argument about sound coming fro ...   Kr4

01-17-11: Jeffreybehr
I haven't read all comments, but the 'antis' I have surprize me. Apparently they haven't heard good MC sound. I have a great-sounding MC system that's based on a great-sounding 2-channel system--NOT the one listed in this site. Adding some subtle ambient information extracted from the 2-channel signal merely makes the sound more realistic, more spacious. I keep centerchannel levels quite low in MC with both discrete and recreated signals. Just as in 2-channel, one key to great sound is an intelligent listener who has adjusted his/her system correctly.

Two-channel music sounds small to me; MC doesn't.
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Jeffreybehr  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


01-22-11   Live music is a monaural+venue experience. proper analog t ...   Vicdamone

01-22-11   Listening is never monaural unless you put a finger in one e ...   Kr4

01-22-11   Yeah! that's it. thanks   Vicdamone

03-23-11   I just find that multi channel sound provides a flat sound s ...   Mds

03-23-11   "i just find that multi channel sound provides a flat s ...   Kr4

04-16-11   mc that is flat w/no depth ?? is your processor broke ?? ...   Jdl007

04-18-11   Nope - nothing wrong with my setup. in trifield or any surr ...   Mds


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