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  Integrated Amps vs. Separates.
I'm curious what people think the better option is, integrated amp or seperates. It seems that integrated amps are a cost cutting measure, but do they also cut sonic quality? Assuming similiar price ranges, what would people here generally choose. Give me some examples/brands/models and comparisions from your experiences. Thnaks. Carter p.s. Is the Krell KAV 300i really the king of integrateds like many reviewers say (i.e not only better than all other integrated amps but better than most seperates)?
Mailman199  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-17-00
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09-17-00   i really believe that the separates sound better at similia ...   Rute1

09-17-00   I suppose that in general, most separates are better than mo ...   Jay@

09-17-00   Audio refinement complete, built under license (i.e. designe ...   Jeffloistarca

09-17-00   I wish i had more time for this reply, maybe later. in the ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-17-00   At @$1500-2000 retail and less the best integrateds are very ...   Megasam

09-17-00   I've recently, for the first time in 40+ audiophile years, g ...   Tom_nice

09-17-00   I was happy with my sansui au517 integrated for the 18 years ...   Puddles

09-17-00   brian, how many integrated did you audition, before choosin ...   Eldragon

09-17-00   I was always a proponent of separates. however, i now am gr ...   Trelja

09-17-00   If your budget is limited i would suggest you still go with ...   Tswhitsel

09-17-00   Once again i am short on time. eldragon, i tested no other ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-17-00   It really depends on your budget.the sim audio i5 is as goo ...   Tml2

09-18-00   I agree with tml2. i've owned the sim moon i-5 for almost a ...   Hifinut604

09-18-00   They sell for abuot 1950.00 us brand new in canada.   Tml2

09-18-00   This is a great topic, i have been bitten by this dam bug si ...   Jazze22

09-18-00   thanks brian! also, vtl is coming-up with their integrated ...   Eldragon

09-18-00   I have heard the it-85, and it is a very nice integrated sys ...   John_l

09-18-00   Krell is the king of hype and little else. look at the numb ...   Madisonears

09-19-00   I own a kav300i, albeit used, and my impression was that it ...   Dustych

09-19-00   I think there is a mis-conception of integrated amps. as i ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-19-00   Hi mailman. i recently heard a gryphin (not sure of spelling ...   Brulee

09-20-00   Just a little comment regarding state-of-the-art, price-no-o ...   Hifinut604

09-20-00   Has anyone out there heard the bel canto or legend "sta ...   Tubegroover

09-20-00   Integreted is a very convenient way to go but after having t ...   Jules

09-21-00   Jules, so you are saying no integrated can match any set of ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-21-00   Jules, you sure are generalizing in this area. i have found ...   Trelja

09-23-00   After much research, imo, in the $3,000 price range, integra ...   Jay@

09-23-00   Take it easy guys i stated in my experience i prefer separat ...   Jules

09-23-00   Nobody is getting excited jules, you are just not getting th ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-23-00   Sorry but lokking at the classified ads i just noticed a pai ...   Jules

09-23-00   Sorry but lokking at the classified ads i just noticed a pai ...   Jules

09-23-00   Now jules, why would you compare used prices for the separat ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-23-00   I don't think anyone(at least on this end) is getting excite ...   Trelja

09-23-00   I'm sorry but you stated a $4000.00 budget i simply went for ...   Jules

09-23-00   Ok, then compare a $6000 dollar integrated at a $4000 used p ...   Brianmgrarcom

09-23-00   It is somewhat of a grey area. before i bought my cary int. ...   Jay@

09-24-00   This has turned out to be a great thread. thanks everyone f ...   Mailman199

09-24-00: Megasam
Despite the fact that there are some excellent high priced integrateds like Mark Levison, Jeff Rowland, Plinius etc seperates have distinct physical/design advantages that can only be had with two box approach. British have been making quality integrateds (MF, Linn, Cyrus, Myryad etc) for a long time, and at @$2000 dollar point companies stop offering integrateds and only offer seperates. Again their long experience with integrateds has shown that above $2000 the cost of the extra box is offset by performance gains. For American audio products the price points are higher, but the principles are the same. For instance Brian's $6000 ML integrated would have to compete with $6000 amp/preamp from companies like Bryston, McCormak, Plinius, Musical Fidelity, Cary, Sonic Frontiers, Rogue etc. BTW I own both integrateds and seperates and appreciate the convenience and cost savings of integrateds, but recognize the compromise. I may stretch the budget to $3000 for a top American integrated, but above that I can get seperates for the same price that sound better, Sam
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01-18-08   Listen to teh naim, nad, dk design group, sim audio, if you ...   Gonzalo


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