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  Anyone HEARD the qol 'signal completion' device?
An ad in TAS... touting this box. I remain skeptical but would like to know what your impressions are if you have heard whatever it does!
Woodburger  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

08-19-11
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01-31-12   Koestner, creative thinking; i like that. i suggest you do t ...   Douglas_schroeder

02-01-12   I don't have one, let alone two of them. i would think one o ...   Koestner

02-01-12   I will be posting my impression of the qol this weekend.   Ozzy

02-01-12   Kclone those are all options for placement of qol unit. just ...   Marc777

02-01-12   I finally took some time and listened to the mono set of the ...   Marc777

02-01-12   I've been reading this thread with some interest; especially ...   Mribob

02-01-12   On the bsgt website there is an oscilloscope reading of a mo ...   Onhwy61

02-02-12   Mribob, i have the stein system which, per tweek geek, is be ...   Marc777

02-02-12   Mribob, meant to say i have only listened with balanced ics, ...   Marc777

02-02-12   I have a lyngdorf room correction device. it certainly help ...   Kclone

02-03-12: Madfloyd
I posted in another thread about my experience, but in case you haven't seen it, here it is:

So I was lucky enough to play around with a QOL in my system and here are my subjective impressions:

The build quality looks very good - along the lines of, say, Pass. It's designed to be flexible - e.g. if you have an integrated amp, you could put this between all your sources and the pre, but I believe the best way to use it is inbetween the pre and the amps, which is what I did.

As mentioned in reviews, there is a bypass button which you can toggle via remote but with the QOL enaged the perceived volume is louder so it's hard to A/B without the usual volume bias.

Listening impressions: I'm going to approach this from the standpoint of what my (amateur audio engineer) brain tells me is being changed by the QOL. First of all, the bass is pretty much unchanged. If I remember correctly, it only affects 125hz upwards. Everything above that frequency is louder - which changes the overall tonal balance to some degree. I found this mostly for the better in my system - at least at low to moderate volumes. I have plenty of bass, so more mids and highs (at least the degree to which it's augmented) seems good. It feels like it makes copies of all the information and mixes it back in with the original signal resulting in a presence/volume boost. Almost akin to 'double tracking' vocals and instruments (common recording practice to make a more palpable image) however in this case its doing it to the entire mix, not just an instrument. That means the ambience (or plain old reverb) is getting a boost as well.

The main effect to my ears is a more 'wetter' presentation. It adds 'space', as if the image was being projected in multiple directions instead of one. I suspect this is what people refer to as 'more like live music'. It IS engaging - no doubt about it, but it does come at a price: not all recordings suit this effect. For example, one of my test tracks is a Carpenters tune (yes, I do admit to listening to the Carpenters) where Karen's voice has plenty of reverb. With the QOL her voice is swimming in it and suffers from some intelligibility loss. It may still appeal to some folks - not like it sounds bad in any way, but imo it changes the character of the mix. Some track that had reverb did sound good - a Patricia Barber tune that has finger snapping sounded excellent and Patricia's voice, which already has gobs of reverb still sounded good. It varies. Classical music sounded good, as did jazz and rock (although I would still say this depends on the material). What I did find that some busy songs with instrument solos resulted in the solos being more buried in the mix (as if the engineer added reverb to it) where I prefer the more dry presentation.

Keep in ming that my Wilson speakers are very 'dry' sounding, especially in the upper frequencies. The QOL was never edgey and sounded quite smooth, despite the highs being more pronounced. I don't think I'd like this device in a very 'live' room.

The bypass switch is mandatory imo - and I think also in the manufacturer's. They warn that when playing vinyl, if an LP is noisy one may want to disengage QOL because it will emphasize the surface noise. While I haven't tried vinyl yet, I believe this to be true because with QOL engaged I can hear tube rush from my preamp at my listening position (where normally I cannot). It's truly being 'loudened' (and of course the frequencies for tube rush is midrange).

Ultimately I found that more and more I preferred my system with the unit in bypass mode as the effect was too distracting for me.

Madfloyd  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


02-04-12   I have also posted my review of the bsg qol after 7 days of ...   Ozzy

02-04-12   Thanks for the informative review. you mentioned that it s ...   Kclone

02-04-12   Ozzy, thanks for that very interesting review. now that you ...   Peterayer

02-04-12   Kclone,peterayer. good questions. i think all recordings a ...   Ozzy

02-04-12   Ozzy does it sound better between amp and preamp or between ...   Jwm

02-04-12   Jwm, i have only tried it between preamp and amp because i w ...   Ozzy

02-04-12   Hi ozzy, hows it going, we haven't chatted for a while. i s ...   Dev

02-04-12   Dev, still enjoying the andra's. i thought i had my speakers ...   Ozzy

02-04-12   Do deal with the volume gain why not just an spl meeter and ...   Kclone

02-04-12   Hi ozzy, i don't know if that was a question me in relation ...   Dev

02-04-12   Ozzy, thanks for the review.   Milpai

02-05-12   Ozzy, thanks for the review and impressions. i am glad you ...   Setonaudio

02-05-12   The point on cables is a good one. i was fortunate to have a ...   Ozzy

02-05-12   Setonaudio have you tried it between source and preamp?   Jwm

02-07-12   Yes...we have experimented both ways and actually run it bot ...   Setonaudio

02-11-12   V.curious about this thread. i've just installed a black hol ...   Spiritofmusic

02-11-12   I have the qol on the way. i will try and post my impressio ...   Kclone

02-14-12   After having experienced the qol, and reading reviews...i'm ...   Lrsky

02-14-12   Larry, you experienced the qol? did you have it in your sys ...   Kclone

02-14-12   Lrsky, you may be right in the sense that it will find its w ...   Peterayer

02-14-12   Peterayer, there are no mixed reports from those of us that ...   Ozzy

02-14-12   If everyone is curious about what's inside, why doesn't some ...   Ait

02-14-12   Ozzy, at least one user did not like it enough to keep it. ...   Peterayer

02-14-12   On 2/1 i posted a question. does anybody have an opinion?   Onhwy61

02-14-12   Peterayer, well, the price tag could cause buyers remorse. i ...   Ozzy

02-14-12   Ozzy, it had nothing to do with price. when you toggle the ...   Peterayer

02-14-12   I will reiterate that i found the unit to 'add' to the signa ...   Madfloyd

02-15-12   Peterayer, when i toggle in and out the soundstage flattens. ...   Ozzy

02-15-12   Thanks ozzy. i had a similar response when i added isolatio ...   Peterayer

02-15-12   Peterayer, to my ears, here is what happens. 1) st ...   Setonaudio

02-15-12   Seton, that's a great endorsement. i agree the only way to ...   Peterayer

02-15-12   Peterayer, the qol will be in addition to the isloation you' ...   Ozzy

02-15-12   Ozzy, the device is in the signal path and adds gain. how i ...   Peterayer

02-16-12   Peterayer, i agree with ozzy, this would be in addition to ...   Setonaudio

02-16-12   Less is more. enough said.   Hifigeek1

02-16-12   I heard the qol device today while visiting with dave weinha ...   Mribob

02-16-12   It's not snake oil, but it's not something revolutionary eit ...   Onhwy61

02-16-12   I hooked mine up today. put it between a cary preamp and ca ...   Kclone

02-17-12   So what is going on here? in europe, we're not easily able t ...   Spiritofmusic


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