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Amp advice sought for Coincident Total Victory

I had driven my Coincident Total Victory II's with 100 W el34's. Now It's a 12 W 300b. I like the tonal accuracy and low level detail much more but do miss two things about the higher powered amp. One is the ability to occasionally turn it up. The other is the headroom needed to to accurately reproduce the fast rise of, for example, a piano or drum. For me, the TV II's are just below the efficiency needed for 300b amplification. Does anyone have experience with a sub $4k used tube amp or amplifier topology that would be a good compromise?

Thanks in advance,

Dave

Dbrewer12345 (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-13-11

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02-13-11 My amp would give you what you want...almarro 318b...18 high ... Larryken

02-13-11 If you like the sound of set, it will be difficult to move a ... Sidssp

02-13-11 You might want to try an otl by atmasphere for example. ther ... Mechans

02-13-11 I have auditioned the coincident statement linestage using m ... Montejay

02-13-11 I tend to agree with both sidssp and mechans, either the car ... Rfogel8

02-13-11 Something`s strange here.your speakers are quite simillar to ... Charles1dad

02-13-11 The eight watt frankenstein is a different animal. i owned a ... Azaud

02-13-11 Rfogel8,i was present at that session and to be honest the f ... Charles1dad

02-13-11 Thanks everyone, now i am more confused than ever:). after ... Dbrewer12345

02-13-11 Dave one point to keep in mind is that israel bloom used you ... Charles1dad

02-13-11 After the above post, it dawned on me that i should be takin ... Dbrewer12345

02-13-11 I can see no reason why the coincident technology frankenste ... Allchemie

02-13-11 not a good idea. you're probably clipping the amplifier sev ... Almarg

02-13-11 Hi dave. glad your enjoying my former speakers. regarding a ... Franks

02-14-11 I have owned two models of coincident speakers (and many oth ... Mmike84

02-14-11 Mmike84, i agree israel is quite approachable and refreshing ... Charles1dad

02-14-11 Almarg, a friend of mine has the coincident dragon and anot ... Allchemie

02-14-11 I'll add to what charles1dad said regarding the cary's: don' ... Onemug

02-14-11 Hi al, i would suggest getting in touch with israel at coinc ... Montejay

02-14-11 We have a set of total victories- they are an easy load but ... Atmasphere

02-14-11 Greg, mike, montejay, thanks very much! excellent info, par ... Almarg

02-14-11 It's nice to hear the there will be dragon mk2. i had a fri ... Brf

02-14-11 Brf, like you i own the total eclipse ii speakers and they a ... Charles1dad

02-15-11 There's also the difference in impedance - the tv2 hovers ar ... Palasr

02-15-11: Pmburnett
IF you can find them used, you may want to look at Manley Neo-Classic 300B SE/PP monoblocks. Unfortunatley, I thinkt he price went up to $9200 per pair today (might be tomorrow) from the previous $7400.

I just bought a pair about a month ago. First, the amps are selectable between SE at 11 wpc and PP at 24 wpc. They also have variable feedback setting and a switch to optimize speaker impedance.

I am using them to drive my Zu Essence speakers in a 12*16*8 room, and I can promise you that they are VERY dynamic and will play ridiculously loud in either SE or PP. The Essence are listed as 97 dB efficient, but Stereophile estimated their real efficiency to be around 94 dB.

Now that the amps are beginning to be fully broken in, I am literally startled at the dynamics and bass that they are capable of on material that I thought I was intimately familiar with when listening to it on my former solid state gear (Rega Elicit). Imaging and soundstage depth, width, and height are also in a different league.

I believe that Manley gear is supposed to be a synergistic match with Coincident speakers, and I think at one time, Israel had purchased a pair of EveAnna's 300B's.

If the Frankenstein is even better than the Manley as some tend to think-- then HOLY COW!

I, for one, have NO desire to switch out my amps. I may do some tube rolling to replace the stock Electro-Harmonix with something like Treasures or EAT's, but that will be it.

One caveat, I don't think the Manley's are as tonally neutral as some other gear, but I am personally fine with that. Rachel Yamagata was in my living room last night. The Manley/Zu combo is so dynamic that you can feel the pressure variations on the phrasing of the vocals on tracks on this disc.

Charles1dad, if the Frankensteins are even better, I am super-jealous.

PMB
Pmburnett (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

02-15-11 Palasr, the tv2 is benign enough that our smallest amp, the ... Atmasphere

02-15-11 Hi, pmb,who knows which is better, what`s obvious is that yo ... Charles1dad

02-15-11 Charles1dad, i am enjoying my manley's very much. it seems t ... Pmburnett

04-21-11 Dave, for the sake of followup after such an interesting thr ... Charles1dad

04-03-12 You may be listening to the wrong tube. i'm driving mine wit ... Fstein