Preamp with tone control.


Hello guys,
I need help to choose preamp. I'm building my system now and I will use Pro-Ject Xpression III turn table, Dynaco ST70 tube amp and B&WCM5 speakers. My question is, what kind preamp you can recommend for ST70 tube amp and, also I prefer to have tone control.
Found few preamps:
1. NAD C 165BEE ($899)
2. NAD 114 ($280)
3. AUDIO RESEARCH SP-4 ($550)
May be some one can recommend better choice.
Thanks!
mrmiele
Adcom GFP 565 excellent and I think much better then the choices in your thread.
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"Not many (In recent memory) preamps have tone controls.."
Right, so if I want disent system how I can control bass/treble?
Thanks for recommendation, will do my research.
how about a Quad 99? It has the famous tilt control that lets you control tonal balance.

A pretty nice sounding unit that allows you to focus on the music.
Cambridge and McIntosh have tone controls.

The NAD tone controls don't give much cut or boost -- maybe 5 or 6 db's. You have to almost max out the controls to hear a difference.

McIntosh gives a lot of boost or cut -- about 10 or 12 db's
Why not add a graphic equalizer? I believe Audiosource is still making them.
I recommend a Dynaco PAS 3X. This is a great sounding preamp and it is the mate to your ST 70. The PAS 3X is a little different than the other PAS preamps in that the tone controls are defeated when set to the center position for best sound. This preamp will always be worth as much or more than what you pay for it today and represents an excellent value.
You might want to consider the T+A 1520 or 30 which has multiple inputs, tone controls and superb sound.
VAS Citation I will fill the bill, it also includes various RIAA curves so if you have vintage vinyl you will be all set..
I second Rrogs recommendation for the Dyna PAS 3x. Get it retubed, recapped, and cleaned. You should be satisfied with the results Happy Listening,
Jim Bonjourno is making a line called Spread Spectrum Technologies. He has a preamp called Ambrosia... It has tone controls. I have not heard it, but have read maybe a 1/2 dozen reviews. The worst of the write ups say that it is outstanding and is truely a hybrid in sound between very good tube and very good transistor. I don't know your budgets, but this is worth looking at.
After I read all of this, I re read your post and saw the price range that you are looking at. I decided to leave the above, but recommend: No tone controls, but wonderful gear.
Musical Fidelity A3CR
Muse Model 3
Audio Research LS9
Coda Window Continuum 4
All very good and can be had @ $500.00 to $800.00 on the used market.
Has tone controls, plus if you find one that is an EC model that doesn't have tone controls, Frank will add them for you.
In the '80s, I bought a NAD1700 tuner/preamp.
Tone controls were really flexible. 60/125/250 bass and 3k/6k/12k treble.
select one of each.
Also, on the back panel was a 20hz rumble filter and a front panel 'loudness' which boosted bass and treble....both a little.
It had 2 sets of outputs and 2 tape loops......
The phone input was pretty good, too, and had selectable MM/ MC .

I kept it for over 20 years. Gave it away working fine. NOBODY would give me anything near the 75$ I was asking.
Apt Holman preamp has some very flexible tone controls and an excellent phono section, renown in fact. A clear step above Hafler.
The Adcom GFP 715 is the last (discontinued) 2 channel pre from them...and I think it sounds amazing (MUCH better than the tuner/preamps, and as good as some much more expensive pre's I've used). Hard to find but relatively inexpensive and it has phono, remote, and 2 output jacks...defeatable tone or tone stack bypass (I use both...second output to an amp for outdoor speakers).
Found good reviews for Adcom GFP 715.
Wondering if this preamp will work fine with Dynaco tube ST70 amp.
If someone have this combination, please let me know about your experience. Thank you guys for your help, I'm REALLY appreciated it!
Cool...and if you don't like it you can blame me. Weird thing...when listening to an ipod pluged into the "aux" input, I noticed sound bleeding into other inputs (like the CD input if I wasn't yet playing a CD and the pod was on). I assumed there was some design flaw in the preamp as I also assumed the ipod cable was OK. WRONG. I bought a Squeezebox Touch and some new Audioquest interconnects for it and the issue was solved...must have been crappy shielding on the other cables. Lesson learned.
Also, some of the Van Alstine preamps have bass/treble controls which are defeatable. Used they could be within your price range. Of course, there's always an old Dynaco preamp, which can be had cheaply and fully restored here on Audiogon fairly often.
Audio by Van Alstine preamps have very transparent tone controls. Their affect is subtle but very useful.
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