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  Favorite 300B: Sophia vs KR

Which do you prefer; S.E.T. Princess 300B Carbon Plate or KR 300B WE Clone?

I've only experienced NOS 40's/50's WE so my expectations are pretty high. Which do you think captures the essence of the WE most closely? I'm trying to keep the cost down as much as possible so EAT is not an option, as much as I was blown away by their KT88. I considered current WE but they're not in production until Spring 2011.

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Sakahara  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

12-03-10
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02-14-11   Sakahara, you replaced your wonderful tron amp? what did you ...   Charles1dad

02-18-11   So maybe sacrilege but have a push pull 300b tube amp (actua ...   Ladavid

02-18-11   Ladavid , the svetlanas are the real deal at around $ 325 a ...   Andrewrona

02-20-11   One of the things i always wonder about with 300b's is how w ...   Ladavid

02-21-11   @ladavid probably quality of material, process and control ...   Maxmad

02-22-11   "so maybe sacrilege but have a push pull 300b tube amp” ...   Phaelon

02-22-11   Phaelon, you`re right , it`s a wonderful tube.set or push pu ...   Charles1dad

02-23-11   Charles1dad, i actually feel sorry for my tech when he goes ...   Phaelon

02-24-11   I ordered 4 shuguang treasures for my amp. pricey but grade ...   Ladavid

02-25-11   Ladavid, if you find the time, i would appreciate you postin ...   Charles1dad

02-25-11   Two more things about 300bs: 1. by all accounts these new ...   Ladavid

02-25-11   "so would i expect the opposite in that i might not not ...   Phaelon

03-04-11   I used a number of 300b amps before and they do work better ...   Bsimpson

03-04-11   Bsimpson, too bad about the shortened life of the tj/sophias ...   Charles1dad

03-04-11   even if yours is a unique experience, it's enough to stop me ...   Tvad

03-04-11   Hello tvad, i thought you were using the push-pull wright 2a ...   Charles1dad

03-04-11   i do own those. however, for the past year and a half i have ...   Tvad

03-05-11   I have my new treasures in the mactone amp. have only 15 ho ...   Ladavid

03-05-11   Fred crowder compares the treasures (with 300 hrs on the clo ...   Metralla

03-05-11   Thanks metralla, very interesting to read this review and th ...   Charles1dad

03-06-11   "the tubes don't hold bias well neither. every other fe ...   Phaelon

03-07-11   Do not want to repeat myself again, but i think for those wh ...   Maxmad

03-19-11   Maxmad & charles1dad: yes, the thoress f2a11 integrated. i ...   Sakahara

03-20-11   Thanks for sharing sakahara. you probably knew, but you may ...   Maxmad

03-19-11   Sakahara, i was an admirer of your tron/horning system. i`m ...   Charles1dad

03-20-11   Charles1dad : now you can admire thoress. ;-) they are of a ...   Sakahara

08-01-11   Just dont want to start another one, so, i bumping this thre ...   Maxmad

08-01-11   Is there a way to recognize the sophia royal princess clone? ...   Isochronism

08-02-11   What i was saying is that sophia royal is an clone as well a ...   Maxmad

08-02-11   Oh, i just re-read my post and it may sound that i really li ...   Maxmad

08-02-11   Maxmad, well how are the sophia royals compared to others yo ...   Charles1dad

08-02-11   I compared them to avvt 32bl and avvt 300b c37, where both o ...   Maxmad

08-02-11   Which tube is better for you really depends upon the amp its ...   213cobra

08-02-11   Maxmad, thanks for your impressions of the sophia tube. i`ve ...   Charles1dad

08-03-11   Dear phil ( 213cobra ), many thanks for your post and even ...   Maxmad

08-03-11   Hi maxmad, i’m a happy owner of the sophia royals. i won’t d ...   Phaelon

08-03-11: 213cobra
Maxmad,

I can say that I would never recommend matching Sophia mesh (really, perforated) plate 300Bs with Cary amps. That's doubling down on the same basic sonic aberration. If someone likes that combination, one can't argue with that, but it would be a piling on of the same euphonic colorations that obscure what you value.

I have a pair of KR VV302 Blue glass that sound beautiful and bell-like in some amps, yet hard and overbearing in others. I also have the older KR Enterprises straight tube 300B with the AVVT-like interior structure. Those tubes have strong, vivid transient clarity, probably the firmest bass of any 300B I have, and good top and bottom extension. But in amps I've used them in, their spatial presentation is great in height and width but cmparatively limited in depth. I'm aware of the Takatsuki but haven't tried/heard them yet.

The Shuguang Treasure 300B has been unfailingly good in every amp I've heard them in, albeit a more modern sound than the typically vintage mesh plates. The current production KR AUdio balloon glass 300B nicely resolves a lot of the spikey differences between all these tubes. For me, a polar graph of its relevant sonic attributes is close to a circle in most amps. My mesh plates sound sensational in my re-capped Audion monoblocks, but I consider that a highly-specific match arrived at by chance since they didn't happen to be in the amp when the caps were chosen and installed.

I will say the Sophias were much less expensive when I bought them. But so were KRs. About $900/pr. now for the KR Audio 300B in the US. Partly a result of the dollar's slide and partly result of that company and its distribution chain realizing they had to own up to the true costs of running a business. In all this discussion, interesting that this decade's production of the WE 300B isn't in the mix.

Phil

213cobra  (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


08-03-11   Phil, i must say i really agree with your observations. i `v ...   Charles1dad

08-03-11   I suppose the notion implied in my initial reply here, but l ...   213cobra

08-04-11   Another example, numerous builders of 300b amplifiers say th ...   Charles1dad

08-04-11   Charles, i kind of tube addicted, have many differ 6sn7 vari ...   Maxmad

08-04-11   Agree with charles1dad, i have one amp that a 6sn7 change wa ...   Onemug

08-04-11   Hi charles, i was talking to israel last week about trying o ...   Montejay

08-05-11   Hello, montejay, last month i ask israel his opinion on tha ...   Charles1dad

08-05-11   Hi charles, he said he prefers these new 300bs to the tresu ...   Montejay

08-06-11   Hi, montejay, thanks for the clarifications. i know you`ve b ...   Charles1dad

08-06-11   Hi charles, i'm very happy exactly as is :) i would be inte ...   Montejay

08-16-11   Takatsuki 300b, in the current 6 moons.com this made in japa ...   Charles1dad

08-16-11   Its been already described by some guys who owns the best 30 ...   Maxmad

01-07-12   I have run tj mesh, eat and now takatsuki 300b tubes in my ...   Antigrunge


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