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  solid state vs tubes
has anyone compared a tube amp to a solid state amp and discovered that the diffference sonically between them was undetectable. ? if so what was the tube amp and what was the solid state amp ?

the reason for the question is the basic issue of the ability to distinguish a tube amp from a solid state amp.

this is especially interesting if the components were in production during the 90's , 80's or 70's.

if the components are in current production the probability of such aan occurrence might increasea.

why own a tube amp if there exists a solid state amp that sounds indistinguishable from it ?
Mrtennis  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-21-10
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09-22-10   Good luck with that! there is no such beast imo and my expe ...   Philjolet

09-22-10   Anyone who has listened to a good tube and and also to a goo ...   Lall

09-22-10   From an engineering standpoint it simply does not matter wha ...   Musicnoise

09-22-10   It has been said that pass xa.5 has a tube-like sound. i no ...   Rtn1

09-22-10   Well, in 1985 there was the carver challenge , where bob ca ...   Auxetophone

09-22-10   my short answer is no. i’ve not heard a tube amp that sound ...   Blindjim

09-22-10   No such thing...   Jburidan

09-22-10   I erected sails on my power boat.still able to tell it was a ...   Markwatkiss

09-22-10   If your question is to distinguish a solid state amp from an ...   Ryder

09-22-10   I feel my roland model 6 amps come very close to the sound o ...   Rleff

09-22-10   Just wondering if the experts chiming in here saying emphati ...   Eric_stefko

09-22-10   I find the post regarding the "carver challenge" i ...   Gtortorella

09-22-10   Its a good question. i'm interested if more chirp in saying ...   Mapman

09-22-10   Again, this concept is missing the point. a system should no ...   Rtn1

09-22-10   Because i like vacum tubes ...........   Czbbcl

09-22-10   Well, there is no question that live acoustic music does not ...   Mapman

09-22-10   Ask bob carver.   Rrog

09-22-10   My understanding is that the thing that is inherently differ ...   Mapman

09-22-10   Oh, sure there are ss amps that sound like tubes. just read ...   Dan_ed

09-22-10   Maybe have a listen to pass labs. these could be the closest ...   Chadeffect

09-22-10   I have a tube amp which is somewhat unreliable--the vtl delu ...   Mrtennis

09-22-10   Yup .........cj premier 350 ........   Czbbcl

09-22-10   Mrtennis what speakers are you going to be driving?   Rleff

09-22-10   Plinius sa100mkiii came somewhat close to tubes. the midrang ...   Philjolet

09-22-10   This question persists amongst us, but i tend to agree with ...   Oregon

09-22-10   My experience is that a good ss amp (tonally - not bright) w ...   Jeffga

09-22-10   I posted a question to the recent tas golden ear club tele c ...   Peterayer

09-22-10   I would imagine the amps are not the primary bottlenecks to ...   Pubul57

09-22-10   Yes, i have. the situation was my office system. m&k pro des ...   Bob_reynolds

09-22-10   When i got started in this hobby in 1957it was all tubes, pl ...   Ferrari

09-22-10   i guess this question will be asked forever. in my experi ...   Dklk

09-22-10   I am a solid state guy because some things solid state does ...   Shay123

09-22-10   I still haven't heard a ss that sounds the same.   Hifihvn

09-22-10   "i have auditioned and owned some and have not enjoyed ...   Larkston_zinazpic

09-22-10   the anthem 225 int amp gets you very close to that "3d ...   Hifisoundguy

09-23-10   i feel tubes are getting more ss, but in a good way. the da ...   David12

09-23-10   Good / bad designs of both exist. it may not be easy to com ...   Magfan

09-23-10   Key point regarding amp match to speakers by magfan. for ex ...   Mapman

09-23-10   Agree with magfan and mapman 100%. choose the speaker you lo ...   Pubul57

09-23-10   I agree with pubul57 100%;don't get wrapped up in reviews a ...   Rleff

09-23-10   I am yet to hear a solid state amp that really sounds like a ...   Tzh21y

09-23-10   While listening to some avalon speakers at a dealership, i l ...   Phaelon

09-23-10   I have never bought speakers based on a solid state demo. i ...   6550c

09-23-10   nobody wants to talk about the problems you have with tube ...   Hifisoundguy

09-23-10   I am using quad esls and a magnepan 1.6. the problem , i ha ...   Mrtennis

09-23-10   what problems specifically?   Tvad

09-23-10   tvad, tube gear has reliability issues..bad solder joints, ...   Hifisoundguy

09-23-10   Hifisoundguy you really believe tube audio will fall to clas ...   Rleff

09-23-10: Rleff
hifisoundguy all the problems except tubes also occur in solid state gear as well;the tube issue is easily resolved by buying from sellers whom other members recommend or ones with stellar credability.The popping noise that comes and goes is one that I circumvent by testing my tubes on a b&k 747 tester on a regular basis;how do you test your ice modules,mosfets,or bipolar transistors;can be tough to desolder from a multilayer circuit board.I don't think a tube degrades quickly unless maybe it is a infant mortality
related;which can also, happen to solid state due to ESD or even high humidity causing leakage;leading to breakdown and failure as well.

Rleff  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


09-23-10   Are we going to debate whether tube gear is reliable? well, ...   Rtn1


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