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  solid state vs tubes
has anyone compared a tube amp to a solid state amp and discovered that the diffference sonically between them was undetectable. ? if so what was the tube amp and what was the solid state amp ?

the reason for the question is the basic issue of the ability to distinguish a tube amp from a solid state amp.

this is especially interesting if the components were in production during the 90's , 80's or 70's.

if the components are in current production the probability of such aan occurrence might increasea.

why own a tube amp if there exists a solid state amp that sounds indistinguishable from it ?
Mrtennis  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-21-10
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10-05-10: Hifitime
All of the tech talk aside,what it all boils down to is,you need to have a tube amp at home,in your own system.If possible,it would be nice if you also could have the solid state amp at home available to change between the two, and spend a good amount of time with each.The more time you live with each one,the more of a chance you have to find out what each has to offer.Being in this hobby for several decades, and many different amps,plus other types of components in and out of my system,I find that tube amps do offer a natural sound about them that solid state never has offered me.That aside,I do use solid state also,but mostly for convenience.I am not saying solid state amps are bad.They just can't do the same.People say tubes can't either,mostly in the bass resign.Ever since solid state came out(over fifty years plus ago),they have been trying to give the consumer what they noticed is missing,since their introduction.After all those past years of them (the designers),trying to achieve this,it hasn't changed much,if any.I don't think the tube amp builders are feeling any loss to the serious listener,that has spent a lot a time with both.On the other subject about Bob Carver,that got him taken as being a serious designer in the audio world.He himself stated that the Transfer Function is not going to take place of tubes.He finds that he could be satisfied with solid state.If they did that test at the reviewers home,in their own systems,I imagine the outcome would have been totally different,and would have been more fair.With all of this said,you need to compare the two in your own system,for some time.How long depends on you.I don't think there are any rules in general for the time it may take for someone to notice the plus and minus of each amp type.If they took my amps away,and gave me a choice of one tube amp,or one solid state amp,I think I myself would settle for the tube amp.
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10-05-10   Hifi, yes, i think each person has their own goals and moti ...   Mapman

10-05-10   what i was talking about is the types of distortions made b ...   Atmasphere

10-05-10   "it is true that the soft clipping of tubes means you w ...   Mapman

10-05-10   Compare the 'best' with the 'best' and see....and not just t ...   Magfan

10-05-10   Hi magfan: you make an interesting point regarding differen ...   Mrtennis

10-05-10   Interesting mrtennis. it makes me wonder: do you think there ...   Phaelon

10-05-10   I suspect, but don't know that the differences between curre ...   Magfan

10-05-10   Lol magfan, just how many shots did you do between those las ...   Phaelon

10-05-10   Magfan, you might appreciate this advise: http://www.youtube ...   Unsound

10-06-10   This thread is one of those no-win threads. like a 'what i ...   Magfan

10-06-10   you make an excellent point imo, magfan. a perfect or near ...   Almarg

10-06-10   The m4.0t i had did very well with magnepan mg1c speakers fo ...   Mapman

10-07-10   mapman, that is true but is not the same as real dynamic ra ...   Atmasphere

10-07-10   Atmas, darn, i thought i submitted you on this topic. oh w ...   Mapman

10-08-10   Mapman, i agree, the problem is this: distortion, in the for ...   Atmasphere

10-11-10   I always chuckle when i here the great tube verses ...   Tmsorosk

10-12-10   Tmsorosk, this one was a little different as the op wants a ...   Atmasphere

10-13-10   Atmashere sorry didn't mean to get off topic , it's an au ...   Tmsorosk

10-13-10   Tmsorosk, i agree we want equipment to sound as much like re ...   Pubul57

10-13-10   i'm a pass fan. i've auditioned the pass labs xa-30.5 and ow ...   Tvad

10-14-10   Tvad, i had the aleph 2,3,j and xa30.5 - i no longer have an ...   Pubul57

10-14-10   Can anybody tell me a pair of speakers that sounds the same ...   Mapman

10-14-10   i know that some silverline sonata iii owners drive them wit ...   Tvad

10-14-10   Harbeth seems to be as fasinable with ss as tubes, whereas m ...   Pubul57

10-14-10   Mapman: i heard avalon ascent and eclipse sound quite good ...   Mrtennis

10-14-10   Mrt., yes, no doubt either might sound good with any good s ...   Mapman

10-14-10   So to sum up, bottom line to me is that it is possible to ge ...   Mapman

10-14-10   A hybrid amp--having a tube input stage and ss output stage ...   Mrtennis

10-14-10   When considering my latest amp purchase, i strongly consider ...   Mapman


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