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  Decware - any substance here?
With such a nice and extensively detailed website, I've long been curious about Decware. But with little in the way of genuine reviews, and not much in the way of discussion here, I always wonder if they are nothing more than that, a great website. They clearly have a dedicated fanbase, but my problem with the fanbase is this: most of them (not all of course) seem to have limited experience with products besides Decware, as if they stumbled upon Decware and never bothered with other brands. Maybe this is positive, that once experienced they don't have the typical audiophile itch to try other amps. I'm specifically struck by the new Torii MKIII push-pull amp, which in description and looks is just beautiful. So does it interest anyone here? Has anyone actually heard it, or it's previous incarnations? If so how does it rate amongst the other quality tube amps, whether Blue Circle, Cary, Vac, Almarro, Atma-Sphere, etc...?
Jtnicolosi  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

09-03-10
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09-03-10   It bums me out also. i just checked to see if he'll be at rm ...   Azaud

09-03-10   I own a couple of decware amps and they are great, and the p ...   Ballan

09-04-10   I own the dac and it is terrific. it runs the cirrus logic ...   Celtic66

09-04-10   Dollar for dollar the decware line must be classified as top ...   Changeout

09-04-10   not dead quiet? a typo, yes?   Finsup

09-04-10   They are dead quiet. no spitting, sparks, smoke or humming. ...   Rivieraranch

09-04-10   I used to own a decware phono stage. never had any problem w ...   Clio09

09-04-10   I own the csp2 pre-amp, and it is a workhorse in my system ...   Peb

09-05-10   I have a zen select. i love it. i wish i had more decware ge ...   Freewaywilly

09-05-10   The four decware amps i metioned in my first post are not th ...   Changeout

09-08-10   I'm new here, only because the decware site is pretty quiet ...   Zygione

09-08-10   I built the decware single ended amp kit (el84s, ~ $350). i ...   Sebrof

09-09-10   Hi..... my name is frank and steve deckert is imho one the m ...   Flaneb

09-09-10   Sorry i forgot to list other equipment i owned....dynaco,amp ...   Flaneb

09-09-10   Hi, someone tipped me off about this thread, i've read it, a ...   Decware

09-09-10   Info on the fest: (http://www.decware.com/newsite/zenfest201 ...   Decware

09-09-10   Is this an annual meet?   Finsup

09-10-10   Yes, i think this is our 8th year so far...   Decware

09-10-10   In response to the new torii after listening for several mon ...   Flaneb

09-10-10   Well i suppose i'm just too curious. sooner or later i'll p ...   Jtnicolosi

09-10-10   This was taken from the decware site....i hope it isn't ille ...   Zygione

09-12-10   If you are a tube roller as i find it fun....the mini torii ...   Flaneb

09-13-10   The thing that keeps me intrigued is the speaker design. the ...   Azaud

09-15-10   I sure don't want to come on as another cheerleader, 'cuz it ...   4krow

09-16-10   Making the leap past the audio store and going direct nets t ...   Grobinso

09-18-10   Ok, i know this thread is posted in the amp / preamp section ...   Finsup

12-07-10: Lacee
I just got word today that my Select Zen Triode is in the final stages and should be in my system between now and the new year.
Perhaps not the best time of year to send things, but that's how it goes.I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I am not a stranger when it comes to amplifiers and I am also a musician , so I'm one of those rare audiophile/musician hybrids, the ones with a music system that's somewhat more involving than an Ipod or pawn shop throw together.
At the moment my speakers are Ref 3A Grand Veena,amps are Red dRaggon Leviathan sigs mono blocks(which I have no negatives to speak of)Audio Valve Eclipse preamp, Rega P9 TT,Grado cart,Audio Aero Capitole cd player.
I have two 30 amp dedicated lines, the one for the amps has a Shunyata Hydra two direct wired to the panel via a Wattgate 20amp receptacle at the 10 guage romex end and a Shunyata Annaconda Helix to each mono block.
The other 30 amp dedicated line has an Annaconda 20 amp Helix to a Shunyata Hydra 8, then a Python cx into the pre amp and 2 hybrid DIY power cords into the CD and tt.
Other amps I have owned include the following- 1961 Bell tubed integrated ,Dynaco st 70,Moscode, CJ MV75A-1,Blue Circle BC2 monoblocks,Meitner mono blocks,Classe DR8 mono blocks, VTL st 85, Michaelson and AustinTVA and Grant Lumley el34 pp tube amps,Atma Sphere S30,Cary sei 300B, and I've auditioned Mac 275 v, Art Audio Cariisa and Pass Aleph 3 on my current speakers.
So I've pretty well got a good take on amplifier differences.
I look forward to the little Zen, and I hope 2 watts will be enough power,but it should be in my application and listening environment.
I will post later when I and the amp get better acquainted.
I do have some great expectations, specifically that this is the end of the line for me.
If what I have read about it proves true, then it just may be.

Lacee  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


12-08-10   Anyone heard their omni speakers? the design concept looks ...   Martykl

12-08-10   Marty, i just ordered a pair this week. if nobody else weig ...   Soundgasm

12-08-10   Gasm, i look forward to hearing what you have to say. mart ...   Martykl

12-09-10   I own the decware csp2 and the decware taboo, i use this to ...   Drumsgreg

12-15-10   I've got a decware se84, has maybe 2 watts per, something li ...   Arkprof

01-04-11: Lacee
I just received my Decware amp, it was shipped Dec 23 and I got it this afternoon,and everything was in perfect condition.
The packaging was well done, double boxed, triple if you count the box the tubes came in.

So after a couple of hours to get the chill out of it I decided to tube and wire it into my system.

I have a dedicated 30 amp line into a Shunyata receptacle then into a Shunyata 20 amp Annaconda to the Hydra 2, and then a Python CX into the amp.

The speaker wires are Clear day single strand pos and neg to jumpered Ref 3A Grand Veena speakers.
I then used a Shunyata Annaconda to power my Audio Aero CD player and sent the signal via 20 foot RCA Audio Art interconnects to the Decware amp. The CD player is on another 30 amp line and into a HYdra 8.

One little wrinkle was that the inputs on the rca inputs are not marked and of course I got nothing out of the left channel until I plugged the interconnect over to the left side of the amp.There are two sets of inputs on the amp,but you need to plug into both the left side of the amp and the right side, you can't plug both into just the right side which is the norm with most amps,or at least in my logic.

In any event even after just ten minutes(I'll need 200 hours they say for it to come up to speed)this is a very surprising little sleeper.

I was expecting it to not have much reserve volume wise, but in my case there's room to spare on the dial!

Turning the nice shiny gold volume control on the top of the unit to 11 O'clock gets me to the same levels that I normally listen at with my regular mono blocks!
2 watts vs 1000 watts-I am amazed at what power you really need to listen at reasonable volume, granted my listening room is 22 x12 x8.

What I am very pleased with is the fact that the Ref 3A Grand Veena speakers can be added to the list of speakers that the Decware 2 watt single ended EL84 amp can drive.
And drive very nicely I must add.

So next it's back down for some more listening.

I'll post again in awhile with further ramblings.

So, I would have to say that there is some real substance with this product and if anyone with Grand Veenas wants to try a nice SET on the cheap and not feel short changed, give this little jewel a try.

They have a 30 day free trial, so no risk,,no risk of sending it back is more like it.

It's a great start to the New Year.

Lacee  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


01-05-11   Find the mini torii very enjoyable. also oun zdac with the ...   Panu21

01-11-11   was it the errs you ordered? curious if you have anything ...   Finsup

01-13-11: Lacee
An audiophile friend of mine had a listen to my system with the new ZenSelectadded to the mix.

He felt it was the best amp he's heard in my quest for another amp for the Grand Veenas.

And I have another 180 hours for it to come up to speed!.

Lacee  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


01-26-11   Finsup, yes, it's the err's which i ordered. i just got con ...   Soundgasm

01-27-11   Off topic, did anybody listen to the zen speaker with the ne ...   Snopro

02-09-11   Finsup, i received the err's today, after some delay over th ...   Soundgasm

02-09-11   Marty, they're very sensitive, but not unworkably so with th ...   Soundgasm

02-09-11   Soundgasm, just a quick note as i only did a quick read-thor ...   Finsup

02-18-11: Lacee
I replaced the stock rectifier in my ZenSelect with an old Sylvania 5UR4GB and the results are amazing.

I've fooled around replacing tubes in pre amps and power amps with some positive results but none as profound as this tube swap.

It's made the amp sound like it grew some more watts.

Of course it hasn't, but those two watts now sound a whole lot more powerful and robust than with the stock rectifier.

A real improvement across the board in the sound of an already really good sounding amp.

So good infact, that I have decided to make it my main source of amplification and abandon my pre and power amp.

If only I had discovered this amp a couple of years ago, I could have saved some serious coin.

Lacee  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


03-08-11   Soundgasm, are you using the stock caps and resistors in th ...   Finsup

03-08-11   I am indeed.   Soundgasm

03-09-11   gasm, thanks for the feedback. marty   Martykl

04-30-11   I own the torii mk iii w/ vcaps. i got the unit about 1.5 wk ...   Jwt

05-25-11   Several years ago, i bought a decware 34i to replace my audi ...   Abcxyz

05-25-11   Jwt, from what you've written it sounds like the torii is h ...   Gopher

05-26-11   What i meant by very detailed at low levels, was that you he ...   Abcxyz

05-26-11   Jwt are you useing a preamp or source direct into the torii? ...   Mystang


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